Ron Paul Asks: Can Bombs Win War on ISIS?

Ron Paul does a great job articulating the obvious. Does anyone disagree with his thoughts? If this simple wisdom does not ring true to you, please chime in and enlighten us.

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And no, RP is not anti-Semitic. Please try to stay on topic. Thanks in advance.

 

If you had watched the GOP convention you would know that the only way to stop ISIS is by unleashing Donald J. Trump's big ignorant mouth on them.

 

he does have links to anti-Semites and Neo-Nazis, and 9-11 Truthers.

 

There is no easy fix for this unless we want to eradicate every single person in the Middle East.

You have to fight back when attacked.

So Ron Paul as per Freakin' usual is quick with a question....but Ron Paul never has any answers.

Hey....I can go and ask a million and one questions just like this.

But unless I have an answer...a plan...such questions are but toilet paper.

Ron's supporters need to get a clue as far as how on NEVER has any answers.

But he always is quick with a question!! LOL!!

RON PAUL.....in 2064 1/2 !!!

AA

 

RP is a conspiracy theorist and a moron.

 

Theology is the basis for this war.
Martyrs on both sides are being killed by Muslims, while bombs hitting the Muslims send others to heaven as martyrs, too.

What is coming is Peace,... when Israel, (Isa 53), realizes that Christ was the Elijah,... returned as had been promised in Mal 4:6:


Christ did the same exact things as had Elijah, but 800 years later:

1) Both Elijah and Christ raised the dead:

1 Kings 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

John 12:1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

2) Both Elijah, who never dies, and Christ were immortal:

2 Kings 2:1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

3) Both Elijah and Christ ascended into Heaven before witnesses:

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it,

Luke 24:.51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven

4) Both Elijah and Christ troubled Israel:

1 Kings 18:17 And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel?

Matthew 2:3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.

5) Both Elijah and Christ were threatened by the authorities with death:

1 Kings 19:14.. And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only am left; and they seek my life, to take it away

John 11:53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death

6) Both Elijah and Christ.... were hunted by the Jewish authorities:

1 Kings 19:14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away

Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?

7) Both Elijah and Christ.... hid in a cave/tomb:

1 Kings 19:9 And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the LORD came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah?

Luke 2:14 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

Both Elijah and Christ pondered in the wilderness 40 days and forty nights:....

1 Kings 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God

Matthew 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

9) Both Elijah and Christ. walked on across the water

2 Kings 2:8.. And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped it together, and smote the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, so that they two went over on dry ground

Matthew 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea\

10) Both Elijah and Christ let a person follow them across the water:

2 Kings 2:14.. And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over

Matthew 14:29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water to go to Jesus.

11) Both Elijah and Christ.... wrote only one thing, a letter, to people on Earth AFTER they had ascended:

2 Chronicles 21:12 And there came a writing to him from ..Elijah.. the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah,\

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

12) Both Elijah and Christ appointed a successor, Elisha, by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ:

2 Kings 2:9.. And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And ..Elisha.. said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me
Matthew 16:18.. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this .rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

13) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor the power to raise the dead:

2 Kings 8:5.. And it came to pass, as he was telling the king how he had restored a dead body to life, that, behold, the woman, whose son he had restored to life, cried to the king for her house and for her land. And Gehazi said, My lord, O king, this is the woman, and this is her son, whom ..Elisha.. restored to life.

Acts 9:40 But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and prayed.; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up.

14) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor the power to heal:

2 Kings 5:10.. And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk

15) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other:

1 Kings 19:19.. So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.

Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

16) Both Elijah and Christ asked that the this "cup" be taken from them:

1Kings 19:4 .But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die (because he was afraid of what was coming from Jezebel: [1Kings 19:3]), and said, "It is enough (they seek my life, to take it away: [1Kings 19:10]); now, O LORD, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers."

Matthew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, (because he began to show grief and distress of mind and was deeply depressed: [Matt 26:37]), let this cup pass from me (It is enough: [1Kings 19:4]): nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

17) Both Elijah and Christ had miraculous births:

Jewish Encyclopedia:
Three different theories regarding Elijah's origin are presented in the Haggadah: Mention must be made of a statement which, though found only in the later cabalistic literature (Yal?u? Reubeni, Bere(*)(*)(*)(*), 9a, ed. Amsterdam), seems nevertheless to be very old (see Epiphanius, l.c.), and according to which Elijah was an angel in human form, so that he had neither parents nor offspring.
See also Melchizedek.

Matthew1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1 Both Elijah and Christ destroyed pagan worshippers and priests. Elijah destroyed the priests of Baal; Christ, the Pantheon of Rome, 380AD:

IKi 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.

History: Universal Christianity in 380AD:
Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.
They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years (32AD -1054AD)\

19) Both Elijah and Christ were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.\

2 Kings 2:2.. I will not leave thee. So they went down to Bethel
2 Kings 2:4.. I will not leave thee. So they came to Jericho
2 Kings 2:6.. I will not leave thee. And they two went on

John 21:17.. He saith unto him the third time,... "Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, "Lovest thou me?"

20) Both Elijah and Christ. condemned a Jezebel:

2 Kings 9:36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:

Rev 2:20 ..Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds...

21) Both Elijah and Christ re-dedicated the Israelite people to God by raising up a new altar or temple:

1 Ki 18:30 And ..Elijah.. said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD that was broken down. And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the LORD came, saying, Israel shall be thy name:

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.

22) Both Elijah and Christ chose one man upon which to build his following:

2 Kings 2:15 And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and ..upon.. this ..rock.. I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

23) Both Elijah and Christ were subject of a three day 'search' for their presence:

2 Kings 2:1 And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send.
They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not.

Luke 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

24) Both Elijah and Christ saved with bread and wine

1Kings 17:16 And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the Lord, which he spake by Elijah.

 

sorry, but RP's connections to conspiracy theorists make him...well...useless

 

I don't think I have EVER heard this guy offer a plan or solution to a problem.

He is quick to point out problems though.

And this is indicative of Ron's style.

Point out the OBVIOUS PROBLEM....with a question.

Example....."Is Exxon-Mobil doing a good enough job to limit the number of oil spills?"

AA

 

you're right, RP is pretty clueless

 

The short and straight answer? Yes. Yes it can. Ron Paul is also an idiot and a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and has yet to offer up any alternative method to defeat them. As for civilians getting killed. You are familiar with the concept of war?

 

we can bomb ISIS into irrelevency.

 

The Black community has made Race an issue.

A White response is now necessary.
Responding to the Black accusations is not racism, but the other side of the issue.

What we see is that the Black community now has 73% of their families raising bastard children on Welfare.
White people are asked to call these bastards "normal children."

But bastard kids suffer enormous Child Abuse while growing up,... and, as adults,... they become the violent criminal element,... as they commit 70% of that crime.

 

"Hi....I am Ron Paul and I want to ask you.....do you think your President can do a better job?"

"Uh...Ron....a better job at what?"

"You know...uhh...a...a BETTER JOB!! Yeah..that's it!!"

"Ron....a better job at what??"

"At uh.....everything?"

"Go back to sleep Ron."

ZZZZZzzZZZZZ!!

AA

 

Pretty funny that none of you even heard his thoughts.

 

I have.

I listened to Ron talk at one of his rallies.

Long on talking about all our issues.

Very short on substance.

His ideas as far as economics would be disastrous if implemented.

Hi ideas as far as Foreign Policy equally as stupid.

He also talked about interfering with how the Fed does business! LOL!!

Yeah...he is something.

AA

 

That's a hell of an assumption. Based on what?

 

Yeah the current system is working just fine, the debt is only in the $trillions and growing into the $quadrillions and corporations are about to take over the planet at the expense of everyone, oh wait that already happened. I can hardly wait for the TPP to become "law". What a great economics idea.

"Everything Hitler did was legal." - Martin Luther King Jr.

I agree, endless war and bloodbaths is a much saner foreign policy. And if the majority of the victims are innocent people, 1/3 of them children, well that's just "collateral damage", what's 2 words anyway?

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Yeah what a moron, why would anyone want to interfere with some of the biggest criminal racketeers on the planet. That's just plain stupid.

He should just shutup, the system is working just fine, after all, the two major candidates for president include a dangerous fascist clown and the other is an equally dangerous war-criminal-wannabe who is too big to jail. It's Ron Paul who's the real problem.

 

Ron Paul thinks that if we ignore the problem it will magically go away. IMO, we are not dropping enough bombs. Obama is playing whack-a-mole with 1/10th the bombing missions that are typical. He is maintaining status quo instead of going about trying to be victorious over ISIS. He is either completely inept or one of them. This is not to mention his rules of engagement that seem tailor made to support the enemy.

 

Seems like they need Marines and Rangers and some air support and;Can a battleship hit ISIS-held territory?
Army infantry,too.

 

Your right.

Ron should just shut up.

AA

 

The right question now is whether $1 Trillion dollars in Welfare/annually, will tun America into a bastard Nation hat is destroyed.


Total annual spending on federal means-tested welfare programs has hit $1 trillion.
The Congressional Research Service is out with a new memorandum on spending on these programs. Senator Jeff Sessions, the ranking Republican on the Senate budget committee who requested the memo, has crunched the numbers and come up with the astonishing figure of $1 trillion in annual total spending on these programs as of fiscal year 2011, nearly $750 billion in federal dollars and another roughly $250 billion in state funding. Senator Sessions explains: Ranking Member Sessions and the minority staff of the Senate Budget Committee requested from the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service (CRS) an overview of cumulative means-tested federal welfare spending in the United States in the most recent year for which data is available (fiscal year 2011). The results are staggering. CRS identified 83 overlapping federal welfare programs that together represented the single largest budget item in 2011—more than the nation spends on Social Security, Medicare, or national defense. The total amount spent on these 80-plus federal welfare programs amounts to roughly $1.03 trillion. Importantly, these figures solely refer to means-tested welfare benefits. They exclude entitlement programs to which people contribute (e.g., Social Security and Medicare).

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330821/total-welfare-spending-now-1-trillion-nro-staff

 

And what about all those who are spread around Europe - around the world? There's seems to be a simplistic mind-set that they're all in the middle east, and intend to stay there. They aren't, and they don't!

 

Completely agree. And unfortunately I believe it's an underrepresented position these days.

US led bombardments that result in the loss of innocent lives should be condemned. And by its definition, I believe it is an act of terrorism. We can talk until we're blue in the face about the excuses. The reality is when innocent life is at stake, actions ahould be scrutinized.

More bombs is ludicrous. It's clear this strategy is not working. If we care so much about defeating ISIS, stop bombing, put troops on the ground and take care of business.

 

Of course. Those who expose the lunatic murderous agenda of criminals in power should all be silenced.

 

We need to shut off their funding.

This we can do!!

AA

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Problem is if Ron ever actually was elected...HE...would be the lunatic murderous criminal in power.

AA