Hillary first woman presidential nominee

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  1. beth115

    beth115 New Member Past Donor

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    Great a woman nominee for president. Does it mean she was the best choice? I don't think so. We need someone that will put job creation, not more welfare first and rebuilding our military. I am a moderate woman, I don't like her ,never have. Bill's presidency didn't hurt us financially but Obamas did. And, her will make it worse.
     
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    Never met a president or a plumber I liked. But hiring either isn't about popularity. It's about getting the job done.

    I don't think a guy who's declared bankruptcy three times, whose signature line is "you're fired," and who offers no plan beyond "I'll figure it out" is the right guy to lead an economic recovery.



     
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    any establishment candidate is going to continue destroying the populace as they have been doing the last 30 years.

    Trump has had failures but he has also had many successes. I expect the same from him should he become president. hillary.... she will do what her handlers and globalists tell her to do while in her spare time extorting money or selling out america funding her own personal bank account.

    Trump has something to prove and wants to show everyone how great he really is... He is Trump. his entire message is "make america great again" . if america sucks after four years of trump... he will be gone.

    Hillary only wants to prove she will be president.

    these two candidates could not be more fundamentally different and the choice is crystal clear for 99.9% of the voters. thats why all this media, polling etc. etc is kind of ridiculous. people have made up there minds. The only real interest for most is basically.... how deep does the rabbit whole go with Hillary Clinton? no amount of spin is going to turn a non hillary supporter into a clinton voter. there is just nothing to work with. like-ability...no.....charm.....no.......family........nope.......humor.......no. and boy have they tried.

    I will say this though. She is a fighter when it comes to her own self interest (populace she could care less). If she loses it wont be for lack of effort. its a real shame she is not an anti establishment populace pro america minded woman. she could have been really great but she took the wrong path a long time ago.
     
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    Vote for the candidate that will represent the US the best. Trump will fall in line with the other globalist leaders. He has to for the US economy to continue as is.
     
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    beth115 New Member Past Donor

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    Like you, I expect Trump would do in the public sector what he did in the private. The difference is, you can reset in the public sector by declaring bankruptcy or starting a new company. We only have the one country.

    Trump is reckless and without a plan. That's not what we need right now.

    I understand it can be comforting to believe there is some global cabal that has everything planned out. It's a lot harder to face the cold reality that this is our country and if we fail to fix it no one is going to catch us when we fall.

    Established means proven. I agree Trump is unproven in public office. Like Obama was. It took Obama two years to get up to "competent"... and he was pretty humble about it. We don't have time for that again, especially since the Donald has a lot less respect for what he doesn't know about running a country.

    I don't like Hillary. I don't need to like her. I don't care if she can tell a good joke or if she's the person you'd prefer to drink a bear with. Clinton does a better job of expressing the challenges in front of us. She has the skills, the experience and some reasonable proposals. She knows who our allies are and can even pronounce their names. Clinton seems to be the better bet.




     
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    First woman candidate from a major US political party to be nominated. There have been 22 other women nominated.

    Hillary IS however, the first woman candidate for President has a reasonable chance of winning.
     
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    the only thing the clintons have proven is that they are corrupt to the bone and never.... ever take responsibility for their actions. If thats what you think we need in this country there is not much anyone can say.

    The american populace basically has one option for a new direction in this country. No liberalism or conservatism can begin to turn this country around. We need a capable leader that basically doesnt give a dang about establishment politics and is willing to try a radical new approach. Trump has shown he can navigate through establishment bureaucracy and accomplish his goals. Bernie just couldn't penetrate the establishment machine on his side of the republicrats. He tried to play nice with these people but they are ruthless. Trump managed to outwit them with his tactics. Its a MAJOR skill set that he will need should he become president. Kennedy had it.... reagan had it. and Trump has shown he has it as well. at least more than any other candidate in the last 30 years and there have been some good ones that just could not cut through the establishment republicrat machine.
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try something radical following a leader who doesn't give a dang.

    (sounds like Nancy Pelosi's advice... or al-Qaeda's)




     
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    Obama NEVER said "vote for me because I'm black."

    Hillary incessantly says "vote for me because I am a woman."

    Anyone see the difference?
     
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    in this current situation in america supporting a pro USA candidate who has pride in his country is radical. supporting an establishment corrupt political insider who sells out the nation is status quo. I respect the sanders supporters even though I dont think they have a full grasp on the logistics of his proposals. anyone who supports Hillary is against the populace IMO. we dont need another republicrat in office. They are the ones who created this disaster.
     
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    anyone that supported sanders should vote for trump as they not Hillary want no grad deals unless they benefit our manufacturers and employees and Unions less tax and tax loopholes. Szanxers and now Hillary want free. College for families earning less than 125k. Well 18 year olds are adults and I doubt NY of them earn 125k , so will they All get free college?. Lack of specifics on that one. Just as there was a lack of specifics on obamacare and it is now falling apart as the democratic intended it to. How much will doctors, surgeons and other medical provides be paid if they go to work for the government ? Will they be federal employees? Who k nows as they don't say. Yadda yadda,same old bull. We know what we will get with Hillary more Obama socialism. Hopefully Trump can help the economy and restore jobs. I am betting on that.
     
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    Free college LOL..... yeah its free but your going to pay for everyone elses the rest of your life. This is possibly the #1 reason why i am not a bernie supporter. Its a ruse to enslave young adults into a tax scheme so they will never earn enough money to lift themselves out of poverty. The colleges will get rich though and all the politicians who vote it in will get really nice payoffs. its a scam for the elite.
     
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    Stop mischaracterizing Trump's bankruptcy filings. You have no clue of what you are talking about. Tired of seeing this BS on this forum and equally tired of explaining it daily only to have partisan hacks repeat inaccuracy over and over.
     
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    I bet Trump is tired of hearing it too. Some things are harder to walk away from than others. (Divorced twice.)



     
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    I disagree. I think most American's have pride in what America has accompished and would like to see the USA do well in the future.



     
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    You're right. Women should vote for misogynist dbag who buys women from Eastern Europe like a pair of shoes.
     
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    OK, I did not vote for Obama in 2008 and and 12. In 08 because he was young and inexperienced and did not like his views and the way he voted.

    But I did get chills and feel proud when he was elected in 08. But he made my life hell with the legislation he pushed including obamacare.


    With Hillary, the first "woman", not the same, I have always disliked her, think she is a crook and poor example for women who are abused and cheated on.

    No way, I would vote for a dog, cat horse before I would vote for the same old crap.
     

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