Sea Level Rise From Global Warming

And this applies if the water is strictly contained...like in a tank. If the water can flow 'outward' then the increase in general water level will be much less...

 

The federal and local governments grant permits for coal mining and coal-fired power plants...therefore, these governments are responsible for the pollution and other latent effects. The government equals taxpayers so any clean up of 'land, water and air' needs to be funded by taxpayers...

 

correct, the earth is warmer today then it was 11,000 years ago. yep! I agree. now, it isn't any warmer today then 19 years ago.

 

so you're saying you posted an experiment that shows that CO2 can make the surrounding air warmer? hmmm. give me something to search from then. I'll be happy to go look in here for that experiment. Did you post it as well?

 

Just google CO2 warming experiment. The Mythbuster video is pretty good. It shows a one degree increase over the control.

 

Still doesn't correlate to a non linear chaotic system.

 

Can't accept the obvious?

 

Not aware of science or systems? You are probably not aware the earth isn't a greenhouse and the greenhouse effect is a label, nothing more.

 

The only reason the earth isn't frozen solid from pole to pole every year, all year long is because of the greenhouse effect.

 

Yes, but the earth isn't a greenhouse so the simple experiment cannot be extrapolated. Besides the most potent greenhouse gas is water vapor.

 

CO2 is a forcing and water vapor is a feedback.

 

It is considered a positive feedback in the models but water vapor, the most important and abundant greenhouse gas, can also be a negative feedback. Positive feedback is evaporation (the source) due to warming increasing the water vapor in the atmosphere but precipitation is a negative feedback (the sink).

The problem here is that clouds and cloud formation is still not modeled well at all and is approximated. There are other forces at work like boundary turbulence. One of the problems with the theory and observed science is the missing hot spot in the troposphere predicted as a result of the water vapor feedback.

To be sure, there is still much to be learned and anyone saying the science is settled either doesn't know anything about it or is a politician.

 

This is the beauty of the soil solution to climate change. If half of the dryland in the world is managed correctly CO2 can be restored to pre industrial levels. This is a management practice that mimics nature.

 

This is a water world. Nearly 1/2 of the globe is covered by the Pacific alone. Land use may change regional weather but the oceans dominate the system.

 

Yet so much of the world is desert. And deserts are not greening. They are growing. Look up Alan Savory. He explains it very well. Also Dr. Laura Ingam. This is important stuff. We can mitigate climate change and in the process feed millions.

 

Deserts and thier locations are determined by Hadley cells (look it up). Hadley cells are why the equator is humid and have little variation in temp between night and day and why deserts are dry and have such hot days and cold nights. According to all indications deserts are greening due to CO2 enrichment according to orgs like NASA and satellite data. During warming deserts might move slightly north but conditions predict more precipitation. Global warming is supposed to increase atmospheric water vapor which in turn increases precipitation. Warming also increases arable land as the warming is more pronounced in northern latitudes. For instance during the last glaciation period it is estimated the equatorial regions were only 3C cooler.

 

I know what a Hadley cell is. I also know that bare ground contributes to desertification. It is simple really. Bare ground is 10 to 30 degrees warmer than covered ground during the day. At 140 f . all biological activity for plant growth ceases. At a soil temp of 100 f. 75%. of soil moisture is lost through evaporation and 15% is used for plant growth. At a soil temperature of 70 f. all soil moisture goes to plant growth . A raindrop hitting bare ground throws soil particles as far as six feet causing soil erosion. Deserts are growing...not because of Hadley Cells but from bad land management practices. A person would think that since overgrazed land causes desertification we should eliminate dryland grazing. But this only makes the problem worse. Dryland grasses left ungrazed oxidate and blow away. Mob grazing the ground mimics natural livestock movement and helps restore land. And this approach works on all land

 

If you look at what is written about deserts you would be hard pressed to discover if they were growing or shrinking. Land management in and of itself only pertains to narrow strips on it's boundary which is miniscle in the scheme of things.

 

But the solution pertains to all land under cultivation. Carbon sequestration can be done in any soil in any part of the world. Carbon is black. Good soil is black. Why is good soil black? ....carbon. You can have piles of stinking garbage rotting in anaerobic landfills or rich sweet smelling humus growing nutrient rich food. It is all in the handling. We can ruin our streams and rivers with phosphate and nitrogen or we can let our soil filter and store water for us. If you want to .make small changes... change the way you do things. If you want to make big changes...change the way you see things.

 

Not really ... no. In this case (of world sea level rise), I think you vastly underestimate the area of the worlds oceans. The lateral expansion would be miniscule, comparatively speaking. The area of the worlds oceans is about 139.4 million square miles. The high estimate for worlds coastlines is only about 600,000 miles.

(There are no agreed on standards for coastline measurement and this is difficult, mathematically speaking, to calculate)

 

Over 40% of the earths land suffers from a scarcity of water. About 1/3 of the land is desert. Odd for a water world.

 

Oceans cover 71% of the earths surface. Deserts won't go away unless you get rid of convection.

 

how can that be when 71% of the earth is water? Are you using?

 

I said land. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

 

Your 'odd for a water world' comment go unnoticed by you?