The "Trump Phenomenon" is Phenomenally Pathetic

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by charleslb, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    So I take it you don't like Trump...

    ho-hum :yawn:

    Honestly dude, your inability to offer anything other than ad hominems says quite a bit more than your amusing attempts at obfuscatory pedantry are capable of hiding.
     
  2. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    You know, dude, a few more off the wall rants like this and I just may vote Trump after all.
     
  3. doombug

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    Sure because dems need to create boogeymen to cover for the fact they have no policies that help the American people. They are the same as used car salesmen selling voters the same lemon every year while their wealthy donors rake in the dough. If this is not so then ask yourself why the rich got richer under the lefty messiah obama?
     
  4. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Republican Party didn't tame the KKK...it welcomed the KKK into its fold with enthusiasm. It welcomed the haters and racists with enthusiasm.

    The Republican Party is the party of the American conservative. NOT all American conservatives are avowed racists...but every avowed racists I know or have heard of...identifies as an American conservative.

    And the Republican Party does almost nothing to disavow the racism of many of its core constituency.
     
  5. YouLie

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    You're very articulate. The only thing missing is your explanation for why he still has support despite his narcissism and the many character flaws that come with it.
     
  6. BoneAmi

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    That's ridiculous. As late as the mid 1960s Democrats were still lynching blacks in the South. Guess what, they're not lynching people anymore. All racists are conservatives, really? I live on Long Island - reasonably healthy economy, relatively affluent - and I've never met a white person of any political stripe that was NOT a racist. In fact, I've never met a black person here that is NOT a racist. We're all racists. Get over it.

    *******s wield it likes it's a political weapon; it's not, it's just a word. It's meaningless.
     
  7. charleslb

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    But, alas, Mr. Trump is all personality (such as it is) and no substance, so his personality and mentality is what one has to address, and ad hominem observations are what's called for.
     
  8. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The truth seemed to bother you.

    Perhaps searching for the truth is not your thing.
     
  9. charleslb

    charleslb New Member

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    Wow, you're a real wit.
     
  10. BoneAmi

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    If it wasn't for "black," there'd be no "white"; if it wasn't for white there'd be no black. I've never met a black person anywhere that wanted to be white; likewise I've never met a white person that wanted to be black. But I have met a number of befuddled who are having serious identity crises; without identity you are nothing, you are nobody, you might as well hang it up.
     
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    Scapegoating and demagoguery can be very effective methods of gaining political power. Also, an unconscientized and hurting working class can succumb to the hype of a capitalist elite holding himself forth as its advocate and savior.
     
  12. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said "AVOWED RACISTS."

    Now...start dealing with that.
     
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    Well, that's a bit spiteful, as in cutting one's nose off to spite one's face.
     
  14. charleslb

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    With Mr. Trump out there scapegoating to the hilt this is certainly the proverbial pot calling the proverbial kettle black.

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    Let me ask you a very pertinent question, dear Trumpites. Given Mr. Trump's history in business, of leaving the finances of investors in ruins, would you actually invest your life savings with him? Well, if not, if he lacks the competence and integrity for you to feel that it would be safe to invest your life savings in one of his ventures, how can you in good conscience advocate vesting him wih the powers of the presidency and giving him a crack at bringing about the ruination of the country? Does your hatred for Mrs. Clinton override your conscience and sense of consistency that much?
     
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    Given the history of Hillary leaving Americans to die in a foreign land I would rather lose my savings.
     
  16. yardmeat

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    You mean, "How is he ahead in self-described 'unscientific' polls in which people can vote as many times as they want and which Trump's fans on Reddit and 4Chan have openly organized vote-stuffing sessions to skew?" Hm, suddenly not a very hard question to answer.
     
  17. doombug

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    No it isn't. This is a choice election. The choice is between the status quo or a new direction. It is bought and paid for politicians or an outsider.
     
  18. YouLie

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    You're marginalizing people's suffering, and insulting their intelligence by calling them ignorant for blaming others. In layman's terms, we call that pissing down someone's back and telling them it's raining.
     
  19. charleslb

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    And you don't think that Mr. Trump's aggressive, alpha male, and unstable mentality will lead to any loss of life?!
     
  20. doombug

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    Maybe the cartoon character of Trump you push but not with Trump himself.

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    You mean liberal logic.
     
  21. Pycckia

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    It is spiteful. But it is intended more to spite you.

    Having calmed down a bit, I will repent my spitefulness. I mean what can be more pathetic than a Marxist, anyway. They either repent their Marxism or grow old and bitter, as I have observed over the decades. They are as pathetic as those Southerners who declared "the South will rise again."

    Anyway, I am content to let you nurse your resentments from the ash heap of history and leave you this to ponder:

    What good has Marxism ever done?
     
  22. charleslb

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    Rubbish. I said nothing whatsoever to disrespect the suffering of or to impute stupidity to American proletarians, I merely pointed out that workers who lack class consciousness (through no fault of their own, our whole culture is geared to prevent the development of class consciousness) and an understanding of how the capitalist system and its elites are the underlying cause of their economic pain are susceptible to the demagogic, I'll-be-your-champion shtick of a capitalist elite like Mr. Trump.
     
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    Ah, the ignorant view of Marxism. What a surprise.

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    Well, pretty much just to give Mrs. Clinton the ole middle finger, the Trumpites in this thread would place the nation under the thumb of an insensitive, unkind, enormously arrogant individual. How lovely of them.


    (Yes, they also think in terms of sticking it to the Republican Party establishment. They simplistically rationalize that mainline conservative leaders are down on, rather than down with, dear Donnie because he’s supposedly some kind of a maverick, but sometimes a lousy cigar is actually just a lousy cigar, and it’s altogether plausible that more conventional conservatives are being entirely honest when they say that they oppose Mr. Trump because they view him as unfit. This is altogether plausible because, you know what Trumpites, Mr. Trump is indeed manifestly and disastrously unqualified and unfit.)
     
  24. Andrew Jackson

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    Nothing to really worry about.

    Trump has ZERO chance.

    And everybody (even his sycophants) already knows it.

    Anybody posting pro-Trump propaganda is well aware that Trump will lose.

    At this point, pro-Trump media (and online support) is just trolling (trying to get a rise out of people).

    Even his voters know that he is toast.
     
  25. charleslb

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    I’ll keep this one somewhat short. In fact Mr. Trump would be a quite conventional president (he's just an especially ugly individual), because as a capitalist he would primarily function to protect and preserve the capitalist system of America (even though it grievously disenfranchises and immiserates the workers for whom he claims his stony heart bleeds), which is essentially what conventional presidents of the United States (and senators, and congresspersons, and attorneys general, and five star generals of the army, etc.) do, after all.
     

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