KAine knocked Pense off his game so hard, that he reeled.

It interrupted any soapboxing on Hillary CHARGES. He was on TOTAL defense.

HE had to play diplomat, without ever defending any ACTUAL Trump quotes. Always deferring to the HYPOTHETICAL Trump.

A GOOD man. Even though he gave NOTHING in our efforts to fight two wars.

And it hurt. Pense seems a genuine folk. Hope he is not hurt TOO BIGLY by his close association with Trump.

There was only one big league foreign affairs conceptual giant there.

And a decent guy that would NOT SERVE like Trump if Trump passed on day 2. He will not defend Trump's QUOTES.

And Pense, being that he is so ESTABLISHMENT, makes no sense, on a ticket that's only appeal is, it HATES the establishment.

 

Decent guys do not wonder around the country defending bigots for Presidents. They do not go from podium to podium and from city to city raising money to elect someone to the highest office they KNOW are not qualified to hold it. Pence stopped being decent when he endorsed Trump, let alone decided to run with him.

 

What about Kaine endorsing Hillary the serial liar, dogged by who knows how many scandals, getting 4 American killed in Benghazi, and then the e-mail and home brew computer BS!!!!!!

 

These scandals do not have legs. She has never been charged or indicted let alone convicted of anything despite decades of pot-stirring by conservatives since she was first lady in Alabama. The dogs won't hunt. They are old tired hounds that are lying down in the grass and panting from exhaustion.

 

Hillary was never 1st lady of alabama

 

If they have been running non-stop for 30 years, they have legs.

 

Kaine was very off putting. Drudge has it 96-4 for Pence. A very respectful, intelligent and well mannered public servant. What a contrast with yappy Kaine.



Where did Hillary dig up this clown?

 

The scandals don't, but I admit there are residuals from all this pot stirring for 30 years reflected in polling data. This is why her trust numbers are so poor. Folks are not invested in any specific scandal, because they see republicans as having made mountains out of molehills with endless partisan hearings on her TP usage and what sort of lightbulbs are in her foyer, but they see the Clintons as at best parsers extraordinaire of the truth and law, and at worse as very clever liars. Hillary has become a Lady Macbeth-lite. So her trust numbers are down, and Congresses approval ratings are even lower.

 

While smear, lies and a campaign of insults have been the Dems' only tactic during this election cycle, it certainly did not work tonight. Pence turned the table and destroyed Hillary on her record, her lack of accomplishments, her failures and disasters. Pence ignoring Kaine's "but taxes... but Mexicans... but Rapists..." irrelevant whining in response to absolutely any question and pivoting back to real issues, records and policies made Kaine look pathetic, rude and desperate.

 

The reason mountains get made out of molehills is because she isn't truthful to begin with. America deals better with people who speak candidly than ones who lie for sport.

 

She doesn't lie for sport. She does not trust at all. She is very guarded, private and her instincts suggest that the hoards are at the gates and climbing the walls of her castle. Its been a cycle. Republicans look for weapons to wound her and her husband, so everywhere she looks she sees knives, brass knuckles and arsenic bottles littering the floor. This goes back from before they were the first couple of Alabama and Whitewater. She has not seen a lot of evidence of 'fair play' in the opposition to her husband.

 

And that's supposed to make american voters feel better about her lies, her coverups, her withholding of information that the American publican is absolutely entitled to know? Lest we forget that paranoia is hardly a solid defense of a presidential candidate... it may actually work in court if she pleads insanity.

 

which information is the public entitled to know, that she has not provided? This is not going to turn into an argument to vote for Trump is it? You can't seriously contend this is a guy is 'transparent'?

 

no one is entitled to know your tax information so if Clinton and her supporter keep demanding Trumps tax information which they aren't entitled too then anything she is keeping from the public also can be demanded of her to provide like her medical records or her Goldman Sachs speeches

 

Kaine regurgitated the Hillary, libbie, cud-chew talking points based on exactly nothing. She's great a selling nothing...been doing it all her life. Kaine is a useful idiot.

 

that is like blaming Bush for getting all the people killed on 911, I blame the terrorists, not Bush, not Hillary, not Obama

 

If Kaine had come on stage, jerked off into his hand and thrown it into the crowd, I have no doubt whatsoever you would come on here and say pretty much exactly what you said above.

 

Three out of four of your claims are false. And the Bush White House had its own private server issue, which you didn't seem to mind.

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Which does not change the fact that A. Donald Trump did promise to release his tax returns, and B. every presidential candidate for the last forty years has done so.

You'll have to do a lot better than that.

Besides, Donald Trump claimed a loss of nearly a billion dollars in a year that was actually one of the best years for his companies.

 

Hahahaha! Kaine looked like a lunatic.

 

Do a logic check on this one. Both the initial premise that everything that follows are suspect.

 

Apparently the OP fell asleep and had a dream that Kaine won. Pence showed he was the adult in the room, and early polls show him the out right winner.

 

did we watch the same debate - LOL, Pence forgot which candidate he was on the ticket with, kinda like a Christ Chrissy only thinner and older

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That is by far NOT the consensus.But then the audience did notice { how
could they not } the 70 reported Interruption by Kaine.The fact the Moderator
challenged Pence repeatedly and asked him specifically 6 very tough
questions to Kaine's single { just 1 } question.Plus the Moderator gave Pence
just quickie 30 seconds to answer his important points.
This hack/flak Moderator even said " right " halfway thru a big Kaine
reply on Immigration.That's right ... The moderator agreed with Kaine.
Plus she Interrupted Pence well over 20 times.
Yet,Pence came thru in bold fashion.On Drudge he was just under 96 %
as winning the debate.Meaning Kaine got just over 4 %.
How does a Hillary water-carrier feel good about that.
It was an abomination of a performance by Kaine.
Plus the Moderator bend over backwards to help out Kaine and
intrude on Pence's time.

 

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I thought Kaine won that debate. About Pence being a stand up guy: No stand up guy would advocate the privatization of American institutions, infrastructure, and National Parks. Privatization means always working for a bigger bottom line. That means someone is going to get screwed, and that will be the public.

'

 

Everyone thinks Pence won, even CNN who polled a mostly democratic pool showed people thought Pence won.

Kaine wasn't bad but Pence beat him on style and was masterful at pivoting to attacking Hillary when Kaine wanted to talk about little things like stuff Trump has said 20 years ago. Kaine set many traps and Pence evaded all of them...

they both did well but i think Pence's ability to stay composed, calm and strong scored him more points. Kaine came across as the aggressor who always wanted to change the topics from important issues facing Americans to the petty stuff like what Donald said 20 years ago about women....