Non-Jews should not be allowed to live in Israel - Israel's Chief Rabbi

So out of the million and a half or so survivors of the concentration camps how many do you believe were faux victims? Ten, twenty, a thousand, ten thousand, how many?

I ask this as you said this;

""Jews always demand respect from non-jews because of their alleged suffering during WWII (I say "alleged" because there are famous "holocau$t $urvivor$" who have been exposed as frauds)""

You seem to mean all Jews but now state it is only certain Jews yet your quote brushes all Jews with the same brush so please3, explain away and be sure to include some proof if it is more than just a few Jews who are doing this.

Ok, so it's only a smattering. Less than a tenth of a percent sort of deal.

Actually I was thanking you for helping the less than one percent of the Jews with your expose and simply recommended you not deny the systematic murder of six million Jews as you did. But now we can put that to rest as you acknowledge the systematic murder of six million Jews by Nazi Germany right?

 

Dear readers, take note of how my pro-jewish opponent Drew Bedson keeps talking about the holocaust even though it's clearly off topic. This thread is about how influential jewish political and religious leaders advocate the imprisonment and mass murder of innocent non-jews, but Drew Bedson thinks that he can make all this go away by attacking me and calling me an "antisemite" and a "holocaust denier".

 

I was quite on topic when I thanked you for what you are doing by pointing out the rare individuals who hold such foul viewpoints:

 

There is nothing "on topic" about attacking me and calling me a "holocaust denier" in a thread about jewish racism against non-jews.

On the jewish news site Y-Net we find another jewish politician who pushes for apartheid in Israel so that jews won't have to be around Africans:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3866809,00.html

 

This still leaves the bulk of Jews, well over 99% as being stellar good people in your book and, pretty much compares with all peoples on this globe.

Jews and others thank you for pointing foul beings out for us but at the same time many wonder what your motives are to point out how good the Jewish people really are to have so few crazies in their midst. Myself, I thank you as off topic as you may feel that is.

 

Don't bother. He doesn't know anything about the Israeli society. He doesn't even know that Israeli Ethiopians are Jews, so his assertion about Jews not having to be around Africans is garbage.

Besides, camps for immigrants are the norm in Europe, I don't know why Israelis should be forbidden to have them.

I'm not in favor of rounding up immigrants, but a town with all the modern commodities, and the possibility to work, sounds better to me than tents in the middle of a snowy nowhere.

 

What are you trying to communicate by saying:

Meanwhile the topic is: " Non-Jews should not be allowed to live in Israel - Israel's Chief Rabbi"

That racist sentiment of Israel's Chief Rabbi is reflected by almost half of Israeli society:

"NEARLY HALF OF ISRAELI JEWS BELIEVE IN ETHNIC CLEANSING, SURVEY FINDS"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

EXCERPTS “ Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.

A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre(*)found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.(*)

- In the same survey, almost 80 per cent of Jewish Israelis said Jews deserved preferential treatment in Israel, while a similar proportion of Israeli Arabs claimed they had seen discrimination against Muslims.”CONTINUED



Because Israel's increasingly extremist Right Wing Society is so supportive of Ethnic Cleansing / Genocide, it ranks as one of the most despised countries[1] on the planet & many of the decent & ethical Israeli Jews are leaving[2]


My point is that it in spite of all your incessant & slanderous braying about "Holocaust deniers" , it is precisely the sentiments of Israel's Chief Rabbi & your own support for Zionist Genocide that is most harmful for Jews worldwide & the State of Israel, itself.





[1] “BBC Poll: Israel Among World's Least Popular Nations” http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/bbc-poll-israel-among-world-s-least-popular-nations-1.525890
EXCERPT“The annual BBC World Service poll finds Germany most popular; only countries less popular than Israel are North Korea, Pakistan and Iran.”CONTINUED



[2] “Why Are So Many Jews Leaving Israel?”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/10/18/why-are-so-many-jews-leaving-israel/

EXCERPT “Today, when presenting his passport, an Israeli feels no such pride. He may feel a sense of contrariness (“us against the whole world”), but he or she is conscious of his country being considered by many as an apartheid state, oppressing another people.
Every person abroad has seen countless photos of heavily armed Israel soldiers confronting Palestinian women and children. Nothing to be proud of.

This is not a subject anyone ever speaks of. But it is there. And it is bound to get worse.

Jewish Israelis are already a minority in the country ruled by Israel, from the Mediterranean to the Jordan.
The majority of subjects deprived of all rights is growing by the year.

Oppression will necessarily grow. The image of Israel throughout the world will get worse. Pride in Israel will fade.

ONE EFFECT is already becoming obvious.
A prestigious recent poll conducted among American Jews shows a marked loosening of the attachment young Jews there feel for Israel.
Young Jewish Americans are no longer proud of Israel. Some of them are ashamed.” CONTINUED

 

Really? In this thread I wrote about the jewish religious and political leader Ovadia Yosef who said that Arabs should be exterminated and that the sole purpose of non-jews is to serve jews. He was so influential that Israel's prime minister asked him for advice, and when he died over 800,000 jews attended his funeral.

Now, if jews are like all other peoples, then I'm sure that you could give me lots of examples of contemporary Western religious and/or political leaders who have said the same things about non-whites and still enjoyed the same popularity that Yosef enjoyed in Israel.

Are there French bishops and politicians who say that jews (or other non-whites) should be exterminated, and have countless followers, and are so respected and influential that the country's prime minister asks them for advice? How about American bishops and politicians? Or German? Or Italian? Or Spanish?

I'm not just asking you, Drew, but all my pro-jewish opponents who have posted in this thread because I really want some examples. It's time for you guys to start proving your claims.

 

Nice try but Israel is a Middle Eastern nation who is at war so, if you need some recent names no need to look far - Arafat, Ahmed Yassin, any leader of the PA or Hamas, Iranian leaders of all stripes. I believe many of them had well attended funerals as well.

 

…and of course you failed to answer my question. No surprises here.

 

When you pose a realistic question where you compare apples to apples rather than apples to rhubarb then I'll be more than happy to answer but being realistic isn't part of your program it seems.

 

Nonsense. Here's what you said:

"All peoples on this globe" includes Westerners.

 

And easterners some of whom have a state policy of the violent destruction of Israel.

 

You're wrong, Pisa. Blacks, including Ethiopian Israelis, are horribly mistreated in Israel. Take a look at the following articles:

Israel initially denied the claim of imposing a sterilization policy on the Ethiopian women,[201] but later admitted to it, and ordered gynaecologists to stop administering the drugs for women of Ethiopian origin if there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment.[203] Action on the issue finally took place after a documentary aired in December 2012 on public television. In it, 35 Ethiopian women who had immigrated to Israel said they had been told they would not be allowed into Israel unless they agreed to the shots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel#Beta_Israel_.28Ethiopian_Jews.29

Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent

The government had previously denied the practice but the Israeli Health Ministry’s director-general has now ordered gynaecologists to stop administering the drugs. According a report in Haaretz, suspicions were first raised by an investigative journalist, Gal Gabbay, who interviewed more than 30 women from Ethiopia in an attempt to discover why birth rates in the community had fallen dramatically.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...pian-jews-without-their-consent-29041176.html

Israel's Interior Minister: All African Migrants Should Be Jailed

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...ll-african-migrants-should-be-jailed-1.430800

Israel's Long History of Racism: What Exactly Are Ethiopian Israelis Protesting?

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.654912

In Israel Too, Young Black Men Face Police Racism and Brutality

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.733109

Violent Riots Target African Nationals Living In Israel

A demonstration held Wednesday night in Tel Aviv in favor of deporting Africans in Israel turned into a frenzied mob.

http://www.npr.org/2012/05/24/153634901/violent-riots-target-african-nationals-living-in-israel

52% of Israeli Jews agree: African migrants are ‘a cancer’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/most-israeli-jews-agree-africans-are-a-cancer/

Israeli Kristallnacht: Africans attacked in Tel Aviv anti-migrant demo

https://www.rt.com/news/israel-anti-migrant-demo-061/

22,000 illegal African migrants repatriated from Israel in recent years

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/22...epatriated-from-Israel-in-recent-years-442645

Netanyahu: Illegal African Immigrants - a Threat to Israel's Jewish Character

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...-threat-to-israel-s-jewish-character-1.302653

Israel rejects Africans' request to convert to Judaism

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4528683,00.html

Miriam "Miri" Regev (…) is currently a member of the Knesset for Likud and Minister of Culture and Sport. (…) In May 2012, Regev participated in an anti-immigration protest and called illegal Sudanese immigrants "a cancer in our body."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miri_Regev

 

Israel treats blacks, Gays, Muslims, MUCH better than Hamas and Saudi Arabia treats women, Gays, Shia.

 

Yes, yes, absolutely; Like all normal people.

However, many of those "bad jews" will be defended by your community, or sizeable parts of your community, on the sole basis that they are also jews. Of course some WASP guys will have the same knee-jerk reaction when, say, a white policeman is opposed to a black guy - but you can't say that these numbers reach a majority like these guys do in Israel. Which makes it that these guys are often in positions of power inside those same communities. How many Israeli PMs were war criminals?

It isn't that jews are bad - it's never been about that in my argumentation. It is about zionists being un-comfortably close to the Nazis in terms of ancient legends, raceligious warfare, need for lebensraum, propaganda and non-respect of human rights.

The difference is that Israel actually does it with success.

 

Well let's see, that would leave the Sephardi, Radhanites, Arabs, and Palestinians. That means that 90% of the IDF, The Knesset, the PM, and his boys; about 90% of the current population of Israel would be departing the country along with the Chief Rabbi, and his staff. What's not to like?

 

let's assume you're correct, and Israel demands living space.

the West Bank occupies 5,655 square kilometers.

Poland, which was conquered by the Nazis for Lebensraum, occupies 312,000 square kilometers.


kinda a poor comparison.

 

sounds like something Germans said about the Jews at one time

then of course they started killing them.... genocide


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When I write about Israel's horrible treatment of the Palestinians, jews and their apologists always say "Oh, but they're terrorists, they want to destroy our country" (and these "terrorists" apparently include small Palestinian children who are murdered by Israeli soldiers).

Now, are these African immigrants also terrorists who want to destroy Israel?

 

we aren't apologists, we simply oppose bigotry and irrational/illogical hatred of the Jews.

 

You might want to revise your strategy, then.

It's like saying that the mafia exists so the Italians can be liked by everyone else.

 

every single day, for the last 6 months, a new thread has been created attacking Israelis, Zionists, Orthodox Jews, Jewish bankers, or the "jewish media", which is of course nothing but a proxy attack against the Jewish people.

let me know when such a phenomenon happens to Italians, or any other ethnic group.

 

Seriously ... who does care what this Chief Rabbi means to tell the world?
That there are also Jewish extremists existing who want to kick out all Muslims from Erez Israel is same truth as there are Muslim extremists exisitmng who want to throw all Jews into the Mediterranean Sea... nothing new, nothing special and nothing what is important at least!

 

It will probably happen to Italians, Icelanders or Taiwaneses if they decide to abuse another people on the base of racial and religious basis while their elite tries to corrupt other countries' governance.

What, you think you guys were hated (yes you are) for skin tones or any other such codswallop? You are hated for what you do, not what you are. And it's fair like that.

Think about it.