Trial of SS medic who served at Auschwitz begins in Germany

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  1. DrewBedson

    DrewBedson Active Member

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    How so? It grew by a couple of people and is rather meaningless considering the amount of people who are genuine victims.

    ""Many in the Russian-speaking community were stunned when 17 of their members — six Claims Conference employees in a New York processing office and 11 accomplices — were arrested last November on charges relating to a fraud that siphoned an estimated $42.5 million from Holocaust funds. At the time, five of the accused pleaded guilty.

    Since then, two more people have been arrested, four suspects have pleaded guilty and an undisclosed number of witnesses have provided information, helping the FBI and prosecutors build an even stronger case against the accused. ""

    Wow, since then two more people have been arrested. Out of the millions of victims two more fraudulent cases have come to light.


    Two more Grau. What part of irrelevant don't you understand?



    No Grau, the inflated number used by the Soviets was never used when the estimate of six million was reached. Another straw man you build akin to going on to no end about shrunken heads, lampshades and all, things that only you bring up as everybody knows they were based on rumor not fact.

    EXCERPT “
    Hate to break it to you Grau but the Allies did not bomb civilian supply lines to camps. In fact, they deliberately left them alone to ensure something did make it through sop you excuse is false.

    Ah yes, a book by a disgraced author and certified Holocaust Denier. What is it with you Grau, is it that hard to find legitimate and unbiased sources for your factual proof?
     
  2. unbiased institute

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    I don't usually get into debates with deniers because of the complete rubbish such people subscribe to.
    https://archive.org/details/ReportOfTheInternationalCommitteeOfTheRedCrossOnItsActivitiesDuring

    This is a direct link which contains the Red Cross report published in 1948 which does admit that Nazi Germany led a policy of extermination.
    There are three volumes to the right of the webpage.
     
  3. unbiased institute

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    I haven't replied to you 15 times
    I have replied two or three times to you and I think that you're confusing me with someone else
    Well actually my literacy skills are very good and on this forum I do question sources and ergo that does indicate a sense of being able to think for myself.
    I have posted on only one topic on this forum when it came to any Holocaust related topics. Which is this one.

    I don't keep avoiding it. I just haven't addressed it.
    It should be obvious to you for the need for secrecy for the Nazi's. I mean that alone makes it a bit suspect.

    No you haven't.
    I have just posted the evidence. All three volumes of which are the original and unabridged Red Cross reports which clearly state that Germany engaged in a policy of extermination.

    Now this is insulting as it assumes that I haven't seen you repeat the articles over and over again as if they're infallible.
    And again
    Why didn't you write about the trial instead of trying to insist that the Holocaust is fake?
     
  4. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hello, Mr. Bedson!
    May I jump into the conversation you and Grau are having? Just to add my 2 cents worth to it and perhaps help settle the IRC question? Of course, my source is probably not meeting your requested high standard, but I noticed you yourself don't have any source.

    See this letter? Someone requested a copy of the IRC report on the numbers of inmates who died in the various camps during the Second World War.

    [​IMG]

    The total comes to 271 000, I can't make out the exact numbers behind the 271.
    This figure is as off Dec. 31st, 1978.

    Now, could you, please, show us your source, duly verified with stamp and signature?

    Source:
    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-judaic-holocaust-hoax/

    Another good source one finds here:
    http://rense.com/general69/factua.htm
     
  5. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "SHAMELESS SHOAH BUSINESS OF ELDER ABUSE"


    Much has been said throughout this Thread about the tiresome & most profitable hoax of Modern History known, ad nauseam, as "The Holocaust®" but little has been said about its true victims of which Hubert Zafke is among the most recent.


    “Trial of Auschwitz medic, 95, halted as anger mounts”
    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/anger-mounts-over-delayed-trial-auschwitz-medic-95-034654922.html
    EXCERPT “A German court Monday once again suspended the trial of a 95-year-old former medical orderly at the Auschwitz death camp, in a new setback for a case where a string of delays has sparked anger

    As the proceedings have stalled, a media war has gathered pace, with a lawyer for Zafke, Peter-Michael Diestel, blasting a "humanely troubling" and "politically dubious" effort to convict his client.
    "I consider it extremely distressing that the German justice system, which has only spottily addressed the Holocaust, is trying to create a fig leaf for itself with this kind of trial," he said in February.''CONTINUED


    The real victims of 20th Century barbarism & persecution number in the millions of innocent, unsung German victims of WW 2 who survived everything from Eisenhower's Death Camps, the targeted bombing of civilian targets (homes), Soviet Gulags to Soloman Morel's Murderous machinations in Poland.

    Rather than wallowing in noisy & selfish self pity & preying on others after the war, these "Evil Germans" are the same people who went on to rebuild Germany AND build Israel's entire infrastructure.

    In reality, it was the Germans who "Made the desert bloom" while Israeli Zionists went on to commit some of the most horrific atrocities in modern history & The Holocaust® Industry busied itself by perfecting the arts of Pity-Mongering & Parasitism

    The most recent target of the insatiably greedy & relentless Pity-Mongering Holocaust Industry, today happens to be a 95 year old Medic, Hubert Zafke about whom nothing is known other than he happened to have been at Auschwitz for about a month in 1944.
    There is no proof that he killed anyone, none of his accusers are present for his lawyers to confront but the rules of Law go out the window at the howl of "Holocaust®"

    Meanwhile, plenty is known about Soloman Morel who, like thousands of Jewish WW 2 War Criminals[1]
    who escape justice for known & certain atrocities into the welcoming arms of that Pariah Repository of War Criminals: Israel.

    I need not ask why Soloman Morel, Eisenhower [2], Bomber Harris (also known as "Butcher" Harris within the RAF)[3] & thousands of their criminal ilk went on after their mass murders to fame & fortune as we who WILL see notice that the Victors are immune for their Wartime Crimes


    Currently, the Publicity & Money hungry subsidiaries of Holocaust® Inc.. "The International Auschwitz Committee," repeatedly engage in Elder Abuse unfettered by the rule of Law.

    Who are these selectively outraged ghouls packing the courtroom & what do they really hope to accomplish by torturing a 95 year old man?

    If Justice for War Crimes were really their concern, they would face up to Israel's younger ACTIVE and PROVEN War Criminals:

    “Israel’s War Crimes Record: Killing and Maiming Children in Armed Conflicts”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel...d-maiming-children-in-armed-conflicts/5454020
    EXCERPT “Members of the Israeli army themselves have admitted various crimes. A Breaking the Silence(*)report“Children and Youth – Soldiers’ Testimonies 2005-2011” noted: “This booklet reveals how physical violence is often exerted against children, whether in response to accusations of stone-throwing or, more often, arbitrarily.” Further(*)testimonies(*)following the the July/August 2014 war on Gaza highlight the brutality meted out on Palestinians (including children).”CONTINUED


    This disgusting Show / Shoah Trial is simply another crass & cruel marketing ploy by the Corrupt Holocaust® Industry to act as a smokescreen for Israeli / Jewish criminality.







    [1] “An Eye for an Eye” (Review)
    http://www.amazon.com/An-Eye-Sought-Revenge-Holocaust/dp/0967569109

    EXCERPT "60 Minutes and The New York Times have corroborated what Sack wrote: that at the end of World War II, thousands of Jews sought revenge for the Holocaust. They set up 1,255 concentration camps for German civilians -- German men, women, children and babies. There they beat, whipped, tortured and murdered the Germans.”CONTINUED



    [2] “Eisenhower’s Holocaust: His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million(*)Germans!”
    https://socioecohistory.wordpress.c...locaust-his-slaughter-of-1-7-million-germans/



    [3] “I would have destroyed Dresden again': Bomber Harris was unrepentant over German city raids 30 years after the end of World War Two”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-city-raids-30-years-end-World-War-Two.html
     
  6. DrewBedson

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    "Consequently the ICRC considers it must make clear the fact that
    it has never published -- or even compiled -- statistics of this kind
    which are being falsely attributed to it. The work of the ICRC is to
    help war victims, not to count them. In any case, how could its
    delegates have obtained data for such statistics? They were able to
    enter only a few concentration camps, and then only in the final days
    of the war".


    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0031322X.1978.9969431

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=KqJqDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA3579&lpg=PA3579&dq=consequently+the+icrc+considers+it+must+make+clear+the+fact+that+it+has+never+published&source=bl&ots=acf2kMmpaU&sig=yawGOpepC0Sv8-DkDLMClC4VQ3Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjl6vKazZ_PAhWo34MKHVx1D5gQ6AEIHzAA#v=onepage&q=consequently%20the%20icrc%20considers%20it%20must%20make%20clear%20the%20fact%20that%20it%20has%20never%20published&f=false
     
  7. truth and justice

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    Your source also states that a considerable number of documentary material was destroyed by the Nazis and secondly, many deaths were not recorded such as in those extermination camps where records were not kept. This contrasts significantly with the postings of those who have stated that the Nazis kept complete well documented accounts of those killed and the records are still around.
     
  8. Jazz

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    Of course it has to be rejected and corrected and denied and vilified etc. We could argue back and forth till the cows come home!
     
  9. unbiased institute

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    Well that's illogical because the ICRC statement invalidates the letter which you posted.

    Funny how Grau hasn't responded to the Red Cross report of 1948 yet.
     
  10. Jonsa

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    Because all he has is the typical denialist bullcrap that has been debunked hundreds of times. He just keeps posting the same crap over and over again, because he has nothing else, and it is Standard Operating Practice for these clowns to do so.

    the truth just keeps bouncing off their foreheads, because denialism isn't about "truth" its about nazi rehabilitation (neo-fascist white nationalists arise!) and jew hating.

    They are just pathetic haters who enjoy wallowing in it.
     
  11. DrewBedson

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    I call them 'Wackamoles' as when hit with the truth they pause and then pop up wirh the same defeated argument in a different thread.
     
  12. unbiased institute

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    I am constantly astounded by people who continue to justify or deny acts of mass murder and I normally avoid them.
     
  13. Jazz

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    What a pathetic, low grade conversation!
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Holocaust deniers sure do present pathetic low grade conversation riddled with ignorance, intransigence and hatred. And I haven't met a single one that doesn't love to wallow in it.
     
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    Wow! The vindictiveness of some Jews is boundless. For all you know, this guy might have administered to sick Jews in their time of need. Your barbaric hate lust is duly noted.
     
  17. DrewBedson

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    Then you are all for the trial to occur to set the record straight.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Then you are all for the trial to occur to set the record straight.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was answering a post from a guy who wanted to throw this old man naked into freezing temperatures and pour water on him. Whatever trial this guy gets is sure to be in a kangaroo court.
     
  20. DrewBedson

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    A Jury of his peers. What is wrong with that?
     
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    Sure, so should American soldiers and medics.

    So should Soviet soldiers and medics.
     
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