Did Hillary say she might start a war with Russia

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the debate Hillary said she would push for a "no fly zone" in Syria. That means American pilots may end up fighting Russian pilots, which could escalate into a war between the US and Russia.

    Democrats love war. Look what party was in power when wars were started since 1900. It improves the economy. But then there is the little problem in the fact it kills members of OUR military. But then again, not so many liberals. Look how the liberal cowards ran off to Canada during Vietnam BTW I volunteered and joined the Navy for four years during Vietnam!
     
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    Do you not see how self contradictory this is?
     
  3. Andrew Jackson

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    Please post your legal (government) name and a link to a verifiable record of your military history.

    Including dates and places served and discharge status.

    I would be very interested in seeing verifiable proof of your claim of your service in Nam.

    Btw--This is Gen. Schwarzkopf. :salute:

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    Btw--on topic, the OP is misleading. Hillary never said any such thing.

    It is just ARNJ "speculation".

    Sincerely,

    " Stormin' Norman" :salute:
     
  4. mogur

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    When World War I broke out in Europe in the summer of 1914, Wilson was determined to keep the United States out of the conflict. On May 7, 1915, a German submarine torpedoed and sank the British ocean liner Lusitania, killing more than 1,100 people (including 128 Americans). Wilson continued to maintain U.S. neutrality but warned Germany that any future sinkings would be viewed by America as “deliberately unfriendly.”

    In 1916, Wilson and Vice President Marshall were re-nominated by the Democrats. The Republicans chose Supreme Court Justice Charles Evans Hughes. Wilson, who campaigned on the slogan “He kept us out of war,” won with a narrow electoral margin of 277-254 and a little more than 49 percent of the popular vote.

    http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/woodrow-wilson

    As World War II loomed after 1938, with the Japanese invasion of China and the aggression of Nazi Germany, Roosevelt gave strong diplomatic and financial support to China and the United Kingdom, while remaining officially neutral. His goal was to make America the "Arsenal of Democracy", which would supply munitions to the Allies. In March 1941, Roosevelt, with Congressional approval, provided Lend-Lease aid to Britain and China. Following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, which he called "a date which will live in infamy", Roosevelt sought and obtained the quick approval, on December 8, of the United States Congress to declare war on Japan and, a few days later, on Germany. (Hitler had already declared war on the US in support of Japan). His work also influenced the later creation of the United Nations and Bretton Woods. During the war, unemployment dropped to 2%, relief programs largely ended, and the industrial economy grew rapidly to new heights as millions of people moved to wartime factory jobs or entered military service.[4] Roosevelt's health seriously declined during the war years, and he died three months into his fourth term. He is often rated by scholars as one of the top three U.S. Presidents, along with Abraham Lincoln and George Washington.[5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt

    Since you obviously don't know history, I have provided you with a bit of knowledge. When it comes to current history, we all know that GW took us into Afghanistan and Iraq. Where do you come off claiming that Democrats are war mongers? You actually have to know history, and know that the only ginned-up war was by GW against Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. THAT was a travesty that we will continue to feel the effects of for generations.
     
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    No.
    ............
     
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    Belch Well-Known Member

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    Yes, she did. Trying to maintain a no-fly zone over syria when russian jets are there now means there would be a war.
     
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    Just to be clear, are you saying that Democrats started WWI, WW2, and Korea?

    Our involvement in the conflict in Vietnam began under Eisenhower, a Republican.

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    Or Russia backs down because our air force would slaughter his in the region.
     
  8. mogur

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    I guess my post was just too long to read?
     
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    The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff told the Senate Armed Services Committee in September that a no-fly zone in Syria would mean war with Syria and Russia.

    Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Mississippi) asked about what it would take for the US to impose a no-fly zone over Syria, using the phrase “control the airspace.”

    “Right now… for us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia,” Dunford replied,
     
  10. One Mind

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    She is crazy folks, insane. With strained relations with Russia, trying to surround them with nato, placing missiles on their borders, saying they are there because of the nuclear threat from iran, waging economic war on them, the demonization of Putin, a classic propaganda tactic, even as putin tells the press what is going on, which our media refuses to tell the American people, with the lies told about Russia in Syria as he actually went after our proxies, ISIS, and A.N......and more than that. She has wanted a no fly zone, not to protect anyone but our proxies, radical muslims, which Obama had enough sense to reject given the tremendous risks involved now that Russia is there helping assad. So of course if enough stupid americans vote to get her elected she will risk the lives of all of humanity, in her sociopathic insanity. Totally irresponsible and historical. On top of this she blames Russia, trying to use Putin to distract from what the wilkileaks has revealed about her and the corrupt banana republic democratic party. We have seen no evidence to back up the claim that Russia has anything to do with the hacks wilkileaks is revealing. Obama tried to take away assange's access to shut him up, but the system was in place so that even if he was killed, the leaks would still be published. It seems that the truth about Clinton is important, for the dems do not want the truth revealed about their queen. So now, Russia is irresponsibly blamed, ramping up tensions, even as she is promising a no fly zone to risk the war that will end all wars, because there will be no humans left to fight another one.

    Clearly she is no JFK, and therefore is the most dangerous person ever to run for president. Russia already thinks war is imminent, which explains what they are doing with their national defense. And if the shoe was on the other foot, we would think the same thing. The only difference is unlike Hillary, putin is not insane, and he would never do to us, what we are doing to him, for he is rational.

    If you vote for this irresponsible woman your are playing Russian roulette with very future of humanity. The evidence is there to show what she is. She has never exhibited decent judgment, and she is an obvious war monger. Perhaps its the death of human beings, at her call that gives her orgasms. The ultimate indulgence in the power that she lusts after. Anyone who wants that power to the extent that she does, that will literally do anything to get it, is the very person that we would be fools to give her. Her supporters have zero judgement, they cannot see what they are voting for.

    But perhaps along with MSM these polls are rigged for her, to suppress trump votes and he will win in a landslide. This would reaffirm my trust in the American people. That they are smarter than Clinton gives them credit for.
     
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    What was on the Lusitania? "Included in Lusitania's cargo were 4,200,000 rounds of Remington .303 rifle cartridges, 1,250 cases of empty 3-inch (76 mm) fragmentation shell casings and eighteen cases of non-explosive fuses..."
     
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    He would be an idiot, if he did that. I knew quite a few liberals when I was in. But that is when we had to draft to get liberals to serve. You will not find many today in the military. That is why I think we should draft again so we force libs to put some skin in the game instead of relying upon the real men to do their dirty work. Plus, if liberals had to serve, they would not only protest against a GOP president, but also a democrat.

    The reason the draft was stopped was so a president could wage any war he wanted for the robber barons, and not get kick back from parents whose kids were drafted and lost their lives for (*)(*)(*)(*)s and giggles. If you have an all volunteer armed forces, when the kids died for nothing, they could always say that they volunteered, instead of being drafted. But a volunteer military is a bunch of poor folks who cannot get a living wage job and this is the only option they have, along with immigrants that will join to be able to stay in America. While the scumbags who would never willingly serve get to stay home, no skin in the game, and support democrats who wage war for the robber barons. But if a GOPher indulges in war, they will raise hell about war.

    I would love to see the draft brought back, so these liberals put some skin in the game as well as the kids of the elites. For now we are sending the poor to die for the cowardly liberals and the elites. I served with a cross section of America. low, middle, upper class. Not just poor people trying to get leg up in life. Make no mistake about it. Liberals will exploit others just as the robber barons will.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that Putin isn't stupid enough to try that. He's probably already moving a bunch of ground forces in that would make it a no-fly zone for us.
     
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    Using what? SAMs that we would overwhelm and destroy with stand off cruise missiles?
     
  15. mogur

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    Clearly, this post is insane. Utterly insane. A conservative that thinks Russia is the good guy.

    WWMCT? (What would McCarthy think?) I, personally, would think that ONE MIND is a commie. I watched 'I Led Three Lives' and I think that One Mind is a commie. He is a disgrace to democracy, he is everything that we hate. We love democracy. We love that commies go screw themselves. We want One Mind to go screw himself.
     
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    Hopefully it won't come to that, but if Hillary wins, then it will.

    Maybe it won't go nuclear, but that's the risk being discussed.
     
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    Russia isn't going to go nuclear over Syria.
     
  18. mogur

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    Okay, there was ammo, and what does that have to do with Wilson?
     
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    At least we can both agree that we are talking about war with Russia if Hillary has her way.
     
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    The US Government actively participating in the war and the ship was a legal target. Just in the instances during WWII the USA was engaging in supplying weapons to the rivals of Germany and Japan. That isn't an Anti-War stance.
     
  21. mogur

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    Sounds a bit like current obfuctructions? You, sir, are a canard. You are actually arguing that since the Lusitania carried some armaments, it was swell that Germany sank her? Can you possibly imagine that it pissed us off? By us, I mean Americans. You seem to be allegiant to Germany.
     
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    I'm voting for Trump (Second Amendment). But no matter who wins, if Russia gets in our way I say it's about time we flattened Leningrad. Bring on the war and launch the nukes.
     
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    No. Do people want to respond to terror? Yes. We don't want to open up the East Front. Napoleon and Hitler met their ends in Stalingrad. You wanna add the US to that list? I don't. So either we talk Hillary out of her insanity or make a different choice.
     
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    Hillary and the War Mongers are pushing a war with Russia, the most heavily armed nuclear power on the planet.

    Cardinal says Hillary needs to apologize...

    Cardinal Timothy Dolan called for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to disassociate herself from anti-Catholic statements made by her campaign chairman and said the remarks were “extraordinarily patronizing and insulting to Catholics.”

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-dolan-clinton-owes-catholics-an-apology
     
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    Yup. Hillary the War Monger would start WWIII with Russia and then claim no accountability because "that was not her intention."

    She also demonstrated that the Senate should refuse to confirm her Judicial Nominees: In her description on the Judges she would nominate she never even mentioned the Constitution. She talked about “standing up on behalf of women’s rights” and “on behalf of the rights of the LGBT community” and ignoring the rights of “powerful corporations and the wealthy.”

    She thinks cases should be decided based on the gender, sexual preference, or wealth of the litigants, not on what the Constitution or applicable statute provides. The Constitution, to her, is not a set of rules that applies equally to everyone, but rather a means of favoring members of groups that appeal to Hillary Clinton.

    The oath sworn by Judges is:
    I, _________, do solemnly swear that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as _________ under the Constitution and laws of the United States.

    Hillary Clinton has promised to nominate Justices who will not uphold that oath. So don't confirm them. We have more than enough Judges, and it is far better to leave a seat empty than it would be to confirm a judge eager to do violence to our Equality Under The Law.
     

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