Which guns to get after Hilary imposed Gun Control ?

The standard chamber pressure for a round of nine millimeter pistol ammunition is in excess of thirty four thousand pounds of pressure per square inch. The microscopic markings used for microstamping technology, especially in parts of the firearm subjected to the most pressure, would have a very short duration of existence.

 

No, NRA is not against free speech, and as an NRA member, neither am I and I am also allowed to speak My mind which is what I did, and I done dood it.

It must frustrate you an awful lot that as a Retired Constable, I am allowed to carry a live sidearm with My credentials and status....

 

Form a pistol or AR15, the part of the weapon that is serialized and thus traceable is the lower receiver. In both types of firearms, the mechanism of firing occurs in the upper receiver. That's the only location that a microstamping activity can occur. Replacing the barrel or firing pin is simply a matter of exchanging parts, making any tracing action impossible. Besides, if the gun isn't traceable to the user, it does no good to trace the bullet/casing to the gun.

You can buy an RPG. You can buy guns legally in nearly every state without background checks and waiting periods.

Who gets to decide that any proposal is too burdensome? Who decides if the purpose is legitimate? What if the proposed law isn't effective, enforceable or Constitutional?

 

Surely you can serialize the individual parts. So trace the parts instead of the completed gun.

With severe restrictions. If that is Constitutional, so are lesser restrictions.

But checks and waiting periods are Constitutional.

That is what the courts are for. A law is passed, people sue claiming it is unConstitutional, and the courts issue a decision. It is how all Constitutional questions are decided.

Honestly, that seems like a very basic question. Did I misunderstand what you were asking?

 

I am a constitutional scholar and retired DOJ attorney. Firearms issues were one of my specialties. The second amendment was intended to prevent any federal interference with small arms ownership by private citizens. Attempts to pretend that the second amendment's ban on federal action somehow ceases after a certain number of rounds are in a gun or how fast the firearm fires or how many firearms a private citizen owns are specious.

 

Let me help you understand the pro 2A supporters argument. Califiornia.
California has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. That doesn't stop them from pursuing further gun control efforts like proposition 63 that is on the current ballot. If prop 63 passes, gun control advocates will immediately put together a game plan to enact even further anti gun legislation as soon as possible. We know this from history.

2A supporters don't want our nation to become like California. Any wins by anti gun legislators will only embolden them to push for more anti gun legislation. They won't stop just because they get what they want. They will never be satisfied.

We know that anti gunner legislators have a view of a gun free America at some point in future generations. To achieve this, they will systematically chisel away at gun rights one legislative effort at a time.

We on the other hand, want to preserve gun ownership rights and the enjoyment of shooting, hunting, and collecting firearms, and pass these traditions down to our children, grandchildren and beyond.

No federal legislation that has been proposed, would be effective at bringing gun violence stats to any recognizable degree. If gun control folks could come up with a proven solid, effective plan, that doesn't push further regulation on honest, lawful firearm owners, then let's hear it.

2a supporters have put forward a real plan that would swiftly and effectively drop gun violence stats. However, because it doesn't focus on guns, they want nothing to do with it. Justice system reform will work in light of the glaring problem of the revolving door justice system. This proves to us that when we hear our legislators use public safety as a reason for gun control, we know they are not genuine.

 

So then we'd need background checks to purchase a replacement barrel? What would the government do with the data? It's against federal law for the government to maintain a database of these kinds of purchases. Maryland did so for 15 years and failed to use the tracing technology to solve a single crime. Sure, it sounds good, but it's a waste of resources all the way around and would require a national database (read: registration) to have even the slightest chance of working. That right there tells us that it's a waste of time to pursue the idea, as it won't ever pass.

Not automatically, they aren't Constitutional. And Constitutionality is a necessary but not sufficient condition. The proposal must be passable, enforceable and effective, too.

Background checks on new gun sales are. They aren't necessarily for private sales, as SCOTUS hasn't ruled on any case. Nor have the ruled on waiting periods. In fact, a federal judge ruled against California's blanket 10 day waiting period but it's still being used under appeal by the state. Waiting periods for people who already own a gun serve no useful purpose to society.

You have more faith in the court system than I do. The above mentioned California mandatory waiting period has been in place for two years, operating under appeal. Meanwhile the rights of their citizens are being infringed.

In their decision regarding the banning of "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines" in Connecticut and New York, the majority opinion of the 2nd Circuit Court stated: "In the absence of clearer guidance from the Supreme Court or stronger evidence in the record, we follow the approach taken by the District Courts and by the D.C. Circuit in Heller II and assume for the sake of argument that these “commonly used” weapons and magazines are also “typically possessed by law‐abiding citizens for lawful purposes. In short, we proceed on the assumption that these laws ban weapons protected by the Second Amendment." Yet they still upheld the ban. In Friedman vs Highland Park, the 7th Circuit Court upheld a total ban on "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines" concluding that the ordinance “may increase the public’s sense of safety,” which alone is “a substantial benefit.”

See why we can't trust the court system to do the right thing? Feeling safer is sufficient to ban anything? Can malls ban black teenagers, then, if it makes their patrons "feel safer"?

 

^^^
Desperate, unsupportable nonsense.

 

Except for the fact that it cannot be done.

Beyond such, microstamping has not even proven reliable in a laboratory setting, where all the variables have been controlled for.

https://www.nssf.org/factsheets/PDF/Microstamping.pdf

A follow-up study, co-authored by Mr. Lizotte, the holder of the microstamping patent, conceded several major problems with the technology that occur even in an
“optimized” situation. Because the alpha-numeric codes are frequently illegible, the study attempted to use expensive Scanning Electron Microscopes (SEM) to read the corresponding gear codes also imprinted on fired cartridges. The gear codes are meant to contain the same information as the alpha-numeric code. The study concluded that even with advanced technology, “a full gear code appears to be rare and dependent on the weapon that made the impression.”

 

No it is supportable

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-simon/free-speech-is-no-threat_b_7915166.html

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/gun-lobby-loves-freedom-but-not-free-speech

 

Questions asked during the practice of medicine are not a free speech issue, they are a standards of practice issue.

"The New York State Rifle and Pistol Association is calling upon state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman to investigate the producer of the video for potential violations of state and local laws"
As free speech does not include breaking the law, this is not a free speech issue.

Did you read these before posting them? No? Thought not.
Feel free to try again.

 

Actually all information that is exchanged between a Patient and a Healthcare provider, is governed under Patient / Doctor / Healthcare provider confidentiality, it must remain confidential and protected, otherwise Patients would never confide vital information to their Physicians regarding many Critical Health issues.

Medical Legal is an important part of Medical training.

 

And, in theory, that confidentialtiy prohibits a doc form alerting the state.
Unless, of course, the doc feels the person is a danger to himself or others.
That's exactly what we need - anti-gun medical professionals asking about guns and reporting their owners as such a danger.

 

I just got a DP-12, and a AR-15 lowers. I've seen the prices of AR lowers going up.

 

I'd like to get a DP-12, just have a few other things to get first.

 

Picked up a Jericho 941 this weekend.
When hitlery wins I'll sell it at the last gun show of the year in a legal private sale for quite a bit more than I paid for it to net me a pistol and a rifle. That's the plan anyway. And until then I'm taking that thing to the range and riding it hard

 

Bought stripped lower receiver after I got word that all the parts for completion will be available. The upper will be lightweight piston system. Should I go Meprolight, Aimpoint or EoTech?

 

I'm not a good enough shot with an AR at range to warrant more than iron sights. I've no knowledge there.

Wait are you talking for the Jericho? It came with meprolight night sights but they don't seem to work very well honestly.

 

Excuse me people... people.... we are about to build a wall...

All those not in favor PLEASE STAND ON THE OTHER SIDE DURING CONSTRUCTION.

Thank you..

 

They can buy with confidence for at least the next 4 years.

CONGRATULATIONS PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!

 

Get what you want after Trump gets in office. I would be most worried about needing good guns & ammo for protection if I lived in or near an violent Democrat stronghold. Those places may erupt into violence at the request of enraged losers like Obama.

 

Hillary Clinton lost !

She is Rost !

 

I'll still enjoy my new gun.

 

Any sort of low power optical sight, holo sight or red dot will greatly increase your accuracy at short to medium ranges. The Mepro is the same sight as the Tavor, which is really pretty effective even in bright light.

 

Yeah the Jericho is a pistol so I'm talking the little white dots not a nice optic. I don't have the scratch for a tavor with an optic.... although nowwwwwwwwwww they'll probably drop a bit in price near the end of the year might pick one up. I was thinking laser grips for the pistol. It needs new grips at any rate, the stock grips are less than ideal

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Dang now I have this really nice pistol I can open carry with a license my state must issue....