California to Consider Laws to Protect Immigrants From Trump Policies

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  1. jmblt2000

    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    Here is the news article:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-to-consider-laws-to-protect-immigrants-from-trump-policies/ar-AAl8xxi?li=AA4ZnC&ocid=spartanntp

    So the gist of it is that Cali lawmakers will force the people of California to foot the bill for legal fees to fight the US government from deporting illegal aliens. Your minimum wage raise just got gutted by higher taxes...Wonder how long it will take the people of Cali to wise up or the state to go bankrupt, which will happen first?
     
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    I thought California was already a sactuary state to begin with?

    Funny how these assclowns only respect the Tenth Amendment when it applies to their little stupid agenda, but if someone in some small little town refuses to bake cakes (and rightly so) for gays they go all federal government on the little man - the same little man the progressive claim to care about...

    What a crock these progressives are...

    Illegal aliens are the progressives bread and butter.....

    Then they want Trump to be consistent - oh you bet your ass he will be.
     
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    So states.can deny federal law? I bet the gay haters are happy to hear that.
     
  4. GrayMan

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    Would the immigrants EVER vote to allow for their own deportation?
     
  5. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These are the same people who for 8 years fought states rights on immigration. Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.
     
  6. MrNick

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    According to progressives illegals don't vote at all....

    We all know that's a lie.
     
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    we need to Consider California a rogue state for the usa now and treat it as similar as a country that supports illegal immigration terrorist like activity to the whole safety of the usa.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_state
     
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    Within a sovereign nation there is no issue with wanting those entering it to pay their dues to society, California is only stopping this if they put in place such laws.

    That being said within my ideal society it wouldn't matter.
     
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    You know who I feel bad for? the actual immigrants that want to be here - those that paid and waited to be here. These illegals are stomping all over these good people and progressives could care less.....

    See, once again progressives are trash.

    They hate the United States which is why they're buring flags and destroying hard working peoples property - they're monsters... They're bugs...

    Their trash ideology holds ZERO water.

    All they do is (*)(*)(*)(*) all over good people while they prop up the trash.

    All these clowns do is yap and yap and yap about how morally superior they are yet they have no respect for good people that make this country work....

    The simple fact we even allow them to have views should really show them what tolerance is.
     
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    The illegals should be packing their bags now.
     
  11. MrNick

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    The only federal law I even give a crap about are immigration laws because this is a sovereign nation - not some unoccupied rock in the middle of an ocean.
     
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    Sure, some southern states tried to ignore, deny federal law on civil rights for blacks. What Ca seems to want to do is no different. Ignoring, willfully breaking federal law is the same regardless of what the law is.

    I think the feds need to start arresting mayors, councilmen, police chiefs, for willfully breaking the law. No two tier justice system. States are a part of the Union, and not the Union by themselves.

    I think some jail time for mayors and others, introducing them to Big Bubba, lifers who love fresh meat would clean their acts up. They been telling the federal law to kiss their arses, and perhaps they need something done with their own arses. Without Vaseline. Big Bubba would oblige.
     
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    I hope they do...

    The best way to make it happen is to stop giving them free money off the backs of taxpayers and stop giving them jobs.

    They'll leave if we do that........ Most are only here for the free (*)(*)(*)(*), that and they're asshats that want to invade the US.

    Look at La Raza and how progressives love that nonsense..... Which of course translates to "the race"... How could any group beyond BLM be more blunt than that in their racism?
     
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    I agree with you, All taxes are muggings but it is worse when it goes to help those who don't contribute.
     
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    Without question....

    If it matters, our government should stay the hell out of the states business - we have a Tenth Amendment for a reason, but this is a sovereign nation and as such our immigration laws matter.

    IMO (actually not in my opition because they are), taxes are illegal.... If people have faith in our federal government then they can buy bonds, we loan them money and they pay us back - they can't steal it.
     
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    California makes itself an outlaw among states by it's public and concerted efforts to work specifically against federal immigration laws.
    The reason we had a Civil War was precisely because Southern states declared they would not follow federal U.S. law any longer.

    Likewise California declares their intent to ignore the Constitution and our laws. The remedy should be very drastic...very drastic!
     
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    I like the bonds idea. Alot actually, then things that actually matter would be funded.

    I just use the "in a sovereign nation" thing because as an anarchist it gets boring when you just say "laws are moronic" to every argument.
     
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    Well the State doesn't need to help enforce any Federal Law, unless they interfere with Federal agents they can help in the legal defense of illegal aliens here its not from what I can tell an issue.
     
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    This is the greatest. A container for all the illegal immigrants to live without fear of paying for anything and no legal consequences. Maybe this would take the pressure off the other states that are spending millions on illegals.
    Go California, I support your attempt to have them all move to your state.
     
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    Conservative hypocrisy is much worse, for eight years they have said the only course of action is to block and obstruct. Now they want to act like we should all come together for the good of the country.
     
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    Well, it used to be that way back in the day. You would give the government money and they would pay you back with interest....

    Wilson and FDR were tyrants..

    As far as anarchy......... I don't think the concept is really possible in theory. We will always have some sort of government weather it's official or not..

    But the theory of anarchy is a totally different thread.

    If it matters "anarchy" works for me, but for it to be successful we must all behave - and that is just to impossible.

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    Say what you like but conservatives aren't the ones in the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing streets burning (*)(*)(*)(*) down..
     
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    California spends $50 billion more federal dollars than it generates in taxes.

    We could use that $50 billion somewhere else I'm sure, like to build a wall around California.

    Actually what would probably happen is the north half of the state would tell SoCal to **** off and create their own state. That would give us probably an extra $100 billion a year with the southern half of California cut off from federal money.

    Wheres the downside here?
     
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    But they are the ones who refused to do their job fir the last year, so that they could deny me the full power of my vote. I guess the left is just not quite as American as the right. Thanks for that.
     
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    All these progressives are doing now is putting on a show and showing intelligent people why they should NEVER vote democrat again.

    The "democratic" party has killed iteslf.............. It's done...

    Both republicans and democrats are done - at least democrats.. The elitist RINO's are certainly done and so are the fascist leaders on the "left"...

    As a libertarian I love it - it's what we need and it's why I voted Trump rather than Johnson or myself.

    The tyrants built a house of cards and Trump is tearing that (*)(*)(*)(*) down.... It's wonderful to see and he is doing more than any libertarian would.

    God I love it.

    We won without a shot fired.
     
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    Then you must agree with all that I said,

    Can't say that I disagree with most of your viewpoints

    However, Trump isn't the answer, and the balance if power will still go in the same back and forth way it always has. It will just get worse and worse.

    What did you win? And who were you thinking of shoting? I guess your also willing to be shot.

    What do you say to other libertarians who wanted a left leaning SCOUTS and had that taken from them.....like me.
     

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