Do the reps want to abolish public schools?

I heard something to that affect on the radio. How would it work?

 

yes Republicans want to abolish public schools. Latest PISA scores just came out. American kids are 39th in math which proves public schools have failed.
Vouchers is way out. Give parents tuition money and let them pick what schools to spend it on. That way teachers have to please parents rather than unions. Make sense?

 

1. Transfer the entire public school budget to the parents and guardians of students (big vouchers) and let them choose their schools.
2. Provisionally credential every college graduate to form their own lightly regulated 5 to 12 student schools from home or office.
3. Encourage the use of online libraries and public domain course material.

I would not expect either the RP or the DP to support such radical change, but it would have great appeal for parents and teachers.
A populist politician might be able to make it happen. Do we have any of those?

 

No, Republicans want to eliminate federal interference into public education. There is no mention in the constitution of education so it is the exclusive territory of state and local governments.

 

The republicans have spoken favorably of moving all education to private schools. Whether they will actually do this or not is to be seen, but the reasons are that it would promote private business over government services, and it would free up taxpayer money to be used in other business ventures and thus keep skimming more and more and more from the people for the upper crust. It would also advance a racist goal of reducing further the quality of education available in poor and minority areas due to inadequacy of funding, and the rich areas would be well funded, meaning the richer kids would be advanced to superior status over minorities and poor.

Their ostensible reason is that we have to do something about the terrible education we have (which they created in numerous ways including the same funding problem and teaching to the test). It's a continuing drive to impoverish the people so the top 1% can get their money and it is called "austerity" in some places. But austerity has failed to improve any economy. It plunges economies into a death spiral because you cannot cut your way to prosperity. It has never been done. But the powers-that-be don't want improvement in the first place. They just want to satiate the boundless greed of Wall Street, banksters, and oil companies to name three sectors.

 

How many of the countries above the US use such a system and how many use public schools?

 

None, all.

 

I guess you don't agree with Ted?

 

Populist? Sure. Bernie Sanders, Jeff Merkley, Keith Ellison, Peter DeFazio, Henry Waxman, John Clayburn

 

its simple. New PISA scores just came out American kids are 39th in math. Its obviously way past time for change. Democrats are ossified status quo fanatic reactionaries. Trump will take care of them!!

 

Not much. I think school vouchers should be one of the tools in the bag but this is an area for state control. Most/all state constitutions address public education, in Texas it is one of the primary responsibilities of the state. Federal involvement in public education is unconstitutional. In the past the Republicans promised to do away with the DOE if they ever came to power. Check's in the mail.

 

Simple.. in a matter of 20 years we would have only a very small number of people who can read and write and we would become a 6 th world country. Yes 6th world because places like Kapustastan would be ahead of us even as a 4th world country.

 

actually pisa scores just came out and our kids are 39th in math so already 6th world. Time for a change obviously and Trump will deliver!!

 

The U.S. scores poorly because we insist on trying to educate everyone. Our top students do as well as theirs. By the end of four years of college we rule the roost.

 

all agree!! And?????????

 

Federally funded public schools? Hell yes!

Why would anybody want the federal government dictating what type of education their child receives?

 

The only federally funded public schools are on military bases and Indian Reservations. For example, in Texas federal funding amounts to about 10%.

 

No, this is not true. They receive about 5% of their total budget from the federal government.

Not much in the greater scheme of things, but enough to sway more than a few curriculums.

 

Well if the Republicans are willing to provide vouchers to let parents send their children to the top private schools that would be fine. Of course what they will actually do is gut the public school system and then provide such piddly vouchers as to make no difference whatsoever. Of course if the Republicans are really smart they will just make it a tax deduction for attending the better schools so that nobody who doesn't pay federal income tax can not take advantage of the deduction. That way the benefit sound good but actually will only help the upper middle class and above.

 

In 2011 federal funding accounted for about 12% of the total public school budget in Texas.

 

Pretty fundamental part of the nation state that it dictates the curriculum. That is after all how you create a national identity.
You do know how countries developed their national identities? Uniform curriculum.

As d'Azeglio said;

"We have made Italy. Now we must make Italians."

There is an inherent danger in allowing states to create their own curriculums. Especially when thinking long term as a generation or two.

 

You do realize that the United States of America is a union of sovereign states (at least in theory)? You have read the constitution? You are familiar with the 10th Amendment?

 

Like everything else. Starve it of money...talk it down because they starved it ...and then privatize it

 

Well... Let's say you are a bit schizophrenic about the whole sovereign states thing. I mean... It's not like the EU or anything. More like a the German Federation and Italian ditto.

 

No, I'm a bit constitutional about the whole sovereign state thing. The constitution delineates the responsibilities and powers to the federal government as well as to the state and local governments and the people. Public education is reserved to state and local governments and to the people.