My fellow republicans. Please stop dismissing the seriousness of the Russian hacking!

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  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    Of course there isn't any.

    I don't think that's even a point. You just assume that there are hackers, and go from there. You also assume that other countries would like to influence U.S. elections, just like we like to influence elections in other countries.

    My point is that it doesn't matter. Never did.
     
  2. AnnaNoblesse

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    I no longer have top level security clearance. In fact I never had it. So for now I'm taking the word of the president, the congress and the intelligence agencies. If they're wrong or they're lying I'll be very happy because I don't like the idea of Russia (a country I like) screwing with the election of America (a country I love).

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    I don't even know how to reply :)

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    I don't assume. I trust our government. And it matters to me.
     
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    That's a great album, by the way. I highly recommend listening to the whole thing!

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    Being pissed really gets no where. If you want republicans to take you seriously then propose something. Personally, I would like to see the US law changed that would allow people to install software to attack the computers that are attacking them. It would never happen because they would say, "But they use university computers and we can't have our university computers damaged!!" Screw it. Frying MIT's IT Department would help MIT get the message they need to manage their system better.
     
  5. AnnaNoblesse

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    I thought people could already do that? It's like shooting someone who climbs in your bedroom window. Ok, maybe not exactly like that but I keep some pictures on my hard drive that I don't want strangers seeing so if someone tries to hack my computer I think I should be able to send them a virus in return.
     
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    Using strong passwords, don't turn on file sharing, and for the love of God use Linux rather than Windows. You'll be safe. :thumbsup:
     
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    A close up of the alfalfa in da house.

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    The only story that it is the Russians comes from an anonymous source in two liberal tags from the CIA. The FBI investigates these things. The CIA refused to show up in front of Congress to answer questions. The head of intelligence does not back the story.

    There are fingerprints of some of the programs used by Russia but also in one case DHS IP addresses. That doesn't mean the information came from Russia and there are now two people associated with the information saying it did not come from Russia, one saying he received it personally from a Clinton insider.

    Russia is always trying to hack along with China and the USA.

    The story about 'hacking an election' is a media invention. You can't hack an election.
     
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    Funny how dems are concerned about emails all.of a sudden.
     
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    No one is dismissing, we are waiting to see what the evidence is. Can you post your evidence in bulleted form below from highest importance to lowest? Youll have to excuse us...before we start a war with Russia, (which I predicted Obama was trying to do during the summer) we would like to see the evidence ourselves this time.
     
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    The answer is no we definitely would not. Clinton would be claiming trump was unpatriotic if he tried doing what the left is doing. We know this because they said so befoe the election when they were positive they were going to win. If anyone wants to do something about russia hacking how about next time dont elect a president like obama whi cant oversee the nation properly nor can keep it safe. Obama.has been pushing the russia card because hes attemtpting to hide something..like Ibsaid months ago.
     
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    Hmmmmm... I'm not a Republican, (I'm a Cornservative), that said: I did vote fer the Dumpster, (even though he was a dim wit Democrat up until two years ago).

    I've noticed a major **** issue, (Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder), in the dim wit Democrat party, (of slavery, kkk, jim crow, felony, treason, and sovereign bankruptcy), and their state run media, they are trying anything to derail the Dumpster's victory any way they can.

    I thought it was a major issue when Obamaprompter and his band of dim wit Democrat fools used US taxpayer funds to interfere in Israeli elections to attempt to defeat Benjamin Netanyahu, butt: the hard Left state run media didn't care much.

    Were you as concerned about that as you are now?

    Why isn't the content of the emails which proved that the dim wit Democrat party coordinates closely with the media, is very corrupt, full of bigotry, and hires thugs to get violent at Dumpster political rallies, that said media blames on the Dumpster, pay fer play where Hillary arranges fer Russia to own 20% of America's uranium?

    Thank God for WikiLeaks, and their release of said emails, (if Russia did it they did us a huge favor). The hard Left so called main stream media in this country is hopelessly broken and is badly suffering from ****. They will focus on any and all bad or troubling news about Dumpster or Republicans and hide any troubling news about the crooked Queen or dim wit Democrats.

    Fact is the main stream media needs to go bankrupt, as they are hopelessly broken. The dim wit Democrat party of fools is in as bad a spot as they have been in over the last ninety years, for very good reason.

    We know the media will hide dim wit Democrat corruption and report any and all Republican corruption, (which I'm glad they do).

    If someone, (foreign power or our own intel, [which many claim has done it]), hacks emails et al and exposes the truth about corrupt power I fer one: think its a good thing!

    Me overpriced $0.02.
     
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    Thank you for this intelligent and honest post. I am registered as a Republican and usually vote that way for local elections but I limited my support fir national GOP candidates to John McCain and the good Bush, George the Father Bush. So being a critic of LICE Trump I would have come off very hypocritical if I extolled Republicans as a registered Republican to see the interference by a foreign as Americans and not Republicans.

    My theory is that Trumpeizdas are not truly Conservative and not truly Republican. After this support for a foreign power interfering with an American election I wonder if Trumpeizdas are even truly American. I say that with a sad heavy heart.

    I being an American by choice nit by accident of birth find it horrific that any person calling themselve an American would support the actions of a foreign enemy over their fellow Americans.
     
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  16. Lil Mike

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    DCLeaks (also alleged to be Russia related) posted hacked Republican emails months ago. They were just boring.
     
  17. Lesh

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    Ya because ya know....Republicans are saints...

    No e-mails that could have been taken out of context like the Podesta ones? Nothing damaging?

    Sounds like leaks either didn't get the juicy ones or didn't publish them.

    Anyone who thinks that having theie e-mails exposed wouldn't do harm to Republicans is a fool or a partisan or both
     
  18. Lil Mike

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    Of course not. Had Hillary won, there would never have been a fake news narrative and there would be no story about Russians "hacking the election." It would be a totally different news environment.
     
  19. Lesh

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    Fake news is what the Russians were paying their buddies to distribute.

    Obama had words with Putin about this i SEPTEMBER but it continued.

    Why did Obama not go more strongly public?

    Because that POS McConnell threatened to use THAT exposure politically against the Democrats
     
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    It's not unusual for Republicans to insist on a perfect candidate while Democrats are willing to support whichever candidate manages to get the support of the majority of delegates, especially the "Super Delegates", which is why Presidents like Barrack Obama and Jimmy Carter can somehow manage to become President. It was a very good thing Hillary Clinton was stopped.
     
  21. Lil Mike

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    Russian hacking as been going on for quite a while, and it would be no surprise that the Russians would want to hack both political parties. They are bad actors on the world stage and they are adversaries. However, just a couple of points:

    * The hack allegedly occurred in the March-April time frame. Long before Trump was assured of the nomination and when almost every talking head, poll, and jackass was proclaiming it would be impossible for him to win. So the intent could hardly be to help Trump.

    * The Wikileaks data was not a hack, it was an inside job according to the people who would know, Wikileaks. Assange has said this for months.

    * That doesn't mean the Russia hack didn't happen, just that it's not the source of the Wikileaks material. This makes sense as I would imagine that Russia would rather keep that info close to the vest than devalue it by releasing it.

    * So Russian hacking (which is a big issue) and the Wikileaks data dump, seem to be unrelated issues. I'm open to new information on this, but when the CIA refuses to brief Congress on the issue, forcing a cancellation of a scheduled hearing, my BS meter goes off.

    * I honestly have a hard time believing anything the media says anymore; particularly when they are trying as hard as they have been to push this narrative. It's like the #fakenews nonsense. Simultaneously every major newspaper and every major news network suddenly made this non story of fake news a 10 day long major blockbuster.


    Meanwhile I just saw a TV ad featuring that faithless elector in Texas paid for by Moveon.org. To the left, the election will never be over and they will spend the next 4 to 8 years trying to de-legitimize it. I can't jump for every bit of bait they try to dangle out.
     
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    Which "Fake News" are you referring to?

    If the Russians did gain access to John Podesta's email account it would make for some amusing payback. http://www.euronews.com/2011/12/06/more-us-criticism-of-russian-election
     
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    I recall something that my Dad had said regarding patriotism and political ideological beliefs and it was about Ujrainuans who were Communists. Of my Dad did not agree with Communists in fact he hated their ideology with a passion. My Dad said that if they want to Communists that us wrong politically but they could at least be Ukrainian and not betray their country, their people, their language, their country. This is how I view Americans who are Trump supporters in that ok we can disagree on politics, on that wall, on whether kids brought here as shall children illegally should stay or not. When an enemy state attacks an American institution or an American political party for the benefit of that fieriegn state we need to stand with our felliw Americans not the foreign enemy. It's like an attack on a family member ! We can disagree with our parent, our siblings, or our spouse but we who are of decent moral fiber do not allow an outsider to attack our family member.
     
  24. Lil Mike

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    I don't think the GOP are saints. They are every bit as corrupt as the Democrats. However they are corrupt in different ways. So don't expect the same type of stories from the emails.

    As far as the hacked GOP emails, they were from Republican operatives, not the RNC. The RNC apparently has better cyber security than the DNC. So the RNC was not hacked. I'm sure Russians would love to poke around RNC computers just as much as DNC ones, they just were not able to this time.

    I'm unclear on if the Podesta emails were the result of Russian hacking. That's a separate hacking issue from the DNC (which wasn't actually a hack but you know...news media...). Any cheeto covered idiot could have sent the phishing email that compromised Podesta. That doesn't sound sophisticated at all.
     
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    Wait what? Trump is "the perfect candidate"?

    You ought to rethink your posts Freddie
     

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