David Friedman to be US ambassador to Israel

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  1. MVictorP

    MVictorP Well-Known Member

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    Well yeah, if it's any kind of solace, you do ruin a lot of lives.

    :applause:
     
  2. Borat

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    Can a Jew become president? He'd have to deal with matters related to Israel and the Middle East every day? Can a Chinese or a Russian-American become president or have an important job in a cabinet, they are dealing with China and Russia constantly? Could we trust Obama not to favor African countries or African Americans?

    Anyway, fair enough, I never believed you are a Jew hater. Yours is more of a European perspective, coming from homogeneous countries and not completely trusting people of different ethnicities to properly represent their country against their own ethnicity or race. You see it as a conflict of interests, I get it. Well, it's totally different in the USA, Americans by the virtue of being descendants of immigrants by and large don't have this sort of prejudice. This European perspective simply can't work in America.

    That said, the previous British ambassador to Israel was also a Jew, just like the current American ambassador, this Trump's appointment has quite a few precedents.
     
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    Trump has said to negotiate the deal between the Palestinians and Israel....that it would be the Ultimate Deal. In any event.....its not looking good for the Palestinians.



    Donald Trump's Pick for US Ambassador to Israel Signals Changes in US Policy.....


    President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for the next U.S. Ambassador to Israel is drawing wide-ranging reactions from jubilant praise to heated criticism.

    Trump’s choice, David Friedman, holds distinctly conservative views in direct opposition to long-standing U.S. policy positions. Friedman opposes a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, actively supports Israeli settlements and advocates for Israel’s annexation of the West Bank, maintaining that the occupied Palestinian Territories are not occupied.

    Most notably, he also wants to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, thus recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, a disputed city of which both Israelis and Palestinians claim ownership. Jerusalem is home to the Israeli legislature, the Knesset, and the Israeli Prime Minister's office.

    Netanyahu's main political rival, Education Minister Naftali Bennett, wished Friedman good luck Friday, describing him as "a great friend of Israel."

    Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely "welcomed" the nomination of Friedman on her Facebook page Friday, describing it as "good news for Israel."

    Among those who have also congratulated Friedman is the Zionist Organization of America, whose president, Morton Klein, said Friedman has “the potential to be the greatest U.S. ambassador to Israel ever.”

    Responding to the news, Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat told reporters Friday, "who Donald Trump appoints ... is his business. What is not Trump's business is to determine capitals of other nations."

    Trump’s take: He has said he would veto any resolution aimed at an agreement between Israel and Palestine proposed by the United Nations Security Council and said the entire U.N. is "not a friend of democracy" and "surely is not a friend to Israel.”

    We must stand firm against the UN's ploy to sabotage Israel---if the UN grants the PA statehood then we must immediately defund it.

    “The era of Palestinian State is over,” right-wing politician Naftali Bennett declared after the election.

    He may be right. .....snip~

    https://gma.yahoo.com/donald-trumps...s-changes-084611096--abc-news-topstories.html
     
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    You make an excellent point, and I agree.

    I am tired of no solution, and the world too often siding with those whose religious beliefs from the get go (Koran, PLO and Hamas charters) are all about the land belonging to Muslim society forever as a consequence of Jihad.

    It is problematic in that it seems to say to Israel, “No two state solution,” more than it says to the Palestinian/Hamas Terrorist State, “you had better make a deal now before it is too late.”

    If a more moderate government were in Israel now, the latter might be somewhat possible.

    This might be something like Iran/Raygun thingy with the hostages.

    Obama should take this opportunity to push for compromise, lay down before them the Clinton proposal that was rejected. At least try.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In your book? Indubitably :roflol:
     
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    An ambassador is not a policy maker. So it has nothing to do with the security of the US diplomatic information. And he/she is not merely an ordinary representative of his/her country either. It's quite common diplomatic tradition that your ambassador might have some cultural connection to the country he is in. It indeed shows a peaceful sign diplomatically. Some foreign diplomats in Turkey are also Turkophone. It's believed that some Turkish ambassadors to Israel were Sabbatean Turks in the past also.

    It could be criticised If an US ambassador to Iran was a Jew.
     
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    When the lefties are against something, I know for sure its the right thing to do.
     
  8. Gilos

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    Assuming this world still belives in diplomacy (not so sure), yea he would be, but he's just a puppet, if he talks like that by his own personal agenda he will be a very heart broken ambassador.
     
  9. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    well, there can only be one president, and he'd have to deal with the whole world and thus all ethnicities, so we can't apply the same standard. but still, we should be vigilant for any signs of dual loyalty.

    do you dismiss it as just prejudice? there is no truth at all to that loyalty to ones ethnicity and religion exist?

    good point
    indeed! or if the ambassador to armenia or greece was a turk, or vice versa. ethnicity matters. on a related note, I think that Swedish policy towards Turkey and Israel is too influenced by the arabs and kurds in our government..
     
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    If Bernie was to become president he wouldnt have give any slack to Israel (Bibi's Gov) I'm sure of that, Left Amreican Jew have a view on Israel and would "fight" the right toward it, so I dont think you are right about dual loyalty, a person background will affect his views and its the views that matter, Friedman and Bernie reprisent two opposite sides.
     
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    I said that we should watch for signs of dual loyalty. I did not say that all jews categorically have dual loyalty. You are right about bernie. if we were to look for any signs, I doubt we would find any.
     

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