China tells Small hands Rump that , if he wants a trade war they will oblige

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  1. jbander

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    From the united states of crapola, Yo u want me to apologize to your psychopath and the minute minds that elected him. Brother that will never happen. I know how loony he is and enough pressure on him and he will start blithering and frothing at the mouth. Your going to destroy China by taking away this market when it only is 18% of their exports. You clowns in your funny farms.
    China’s main import partners are: the European Union (12 percent of total imports, of which Germany accounts for 5 percent), ASEAN countries (12 percent, of which Malaysia accounts for 3 percent), South Korea (10 percent), Japan, Taiwan and the US (9 percent each) and Australia (4 percent). So what that means is other then blocks of countries, South Korea then the US are the place that they import from. 10% from Korea 9% from us. Thats not the point when Obama came into office they imported 200 billion and that increased to 1500 billion(1 1/2 Trillion.) and they will continue to grow at that rate and your puke hero want s to dump them as a trade partner. So their increase in imports since Oboma came into office is a 750% increase that would be over 13% increase a year and there is no reason to think that willslow down in the near future. They won't even miss us in just a few years.
    May I quote you " they flood our market with their junk and yet they don't buy anything from us." they buy more from us than any other country other then South Korea. You just have to laugh at these goofball with their make believe facts, from their make their make believe Psychopath hero and their make believe news source FOX CRAP NEWS AND THAT FAT GUY> The wacky world of the right.
     
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    Biggest recipient of food support in this country is Wall mart workers. That you and I and all other tax payers pay for to increase the bottom line of a corporations , we may be the stupidest country in the world as far as that type of trickle up economy stupidity is concerned. I have zero problem with a lower wage for teens but at 19 they should get a livable wage , that hourly wage that is set would be for full and part time workers. So like wall mart , they can't play the 39 hours a week routine on all their employees.
     
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    God I hate to say this but much of the fun I have in these forums is gone, no argument , no counterpoints ,just your dumb and I don't like you and that seems to be from what 90 or 95% of the responses. It's so easy to argue by simply taking a position of fact that They elected a hateful evil, psychopath and they have to live with ego provokes stupidity from their master, instead of sensible thought out response from their Psychopath. The one point they will never get past is the fact that they elected a psychopath and put him next to the little red button that would destroy all of mankind.
     
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    Dude, what part of "They sell us an enormous amount of their junk, they don't buy anything from us, they are responsible for half of our trade deficit" don't you understand?

    Our trade with China is so skewed in one direction that I don't understand what's to argue about. They don't buy "made in America", we buy trillions dollars worth of "made in China". They should be terrified of a trade war and they are. We have nothing to lose.
     
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    I hate trying to explain simple things to simpler minds but I got a minute. 18 % of their exports go to this country, their increase of export total increases at a rate of over 13% a year. so what it will take them 1 1/2 years to recover, woopy ding. This is murder to this country because business will puke all over the people who screwed up the relationship between China and the US, but China wont even blink, business is controlled by the government. So they make the best decision by the political aspects of their economy, and don't even think about getting a rebuff from business. I don't know if you haven't noticed but we put economic sanctions on opposition countries and they say (*)(*)(*)(*) you and would never let us control them with economic tools, they simply can't,something that people with a mind understand but something that I'm sure will simply go over ding dong worlds head.
     
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    Borate I haven't read more then half of any comment you have sent , when I get to stupid , I simply respond and assume the rest is just like the stupid.
     
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    You are very confused, it's not about punishing China, I don't care if/when they recover, in fact I don't wish them ill and hope they will recover immediately. It's about getting rid of the enormous trade deficit, 50% of which is contributed by China, decreasing the national debt and creating well paying middle class manufacturing jobs in the US. And the good thing is, we have nothing to lose because they don't buy our stuff in the first place. Do you get it now?
     
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    Yup.

    The left just has zero backbone.
     
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    This might sound clueless but please consider that I am a novice to all this:

    Why would a trade war with China be bad for the USA? Sure for the first little while things would be uncomfortable for the Americans who love to buy Chinese products. However after a while, the need for goods continues and the USA decides to start producing goods for its internal consumption. Sounds like a good thing to me.
     
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    Ya I get it your just another blind half mind from the right. Who hates before he thinks and talks before he has a clue,. If you think that your psychopath is going to do any of those things your nuts. He will do exactly like he is doing getting in a fight with a major trading partner for the sake off his stupidity and ego and suck asses like you are going to support that pile of (*)(*)(*)(*). Now did I miss anything. What a fricken wing nut. Your elect a psychopath and put him next to the little red button that once pushed will destroy mankind and your talking about middle class jobs, good God man boy do you live in a fairy tail., You have nothing to offer and you prove it every time you open your mouth.
     
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    The fallacy is thinking a trade war will achieve those objectives. And we have plenty to lose. Have you heard of inflation? What we have to lose first and foremost is the cost of living, which could increase dramatically and immediately under Trump if he continues on this path. We need to fix the problem. But you don't cure a patient by shooting him in the head.
     
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    Let's see, Borat posts a reasonable post and your response is anything but rational. Win for our side!
     
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    It's entirely silly to think China won't survive without us. They have for millenniums, the U.S. just a quarter of one.

    A trade war would hurt us both but Chinese can recover far better than we can. Their people would also be more united behind their government in a provoked trade war started by us. Do you think the American people would unite behind Trump?
     
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    What a silly post. Let's just bend over and let another country take us to the cleaners so you can win a political victory. You do realize that any kind of conflict will involve you and other left-wingers, don't you?
     
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    We are the second biggest exporter in the world, who the right wants to not make trade agreement with other countries because a black man made that agreement and they don't like the color black at all. You can't take yourself out of the export market when your the 2nd largest exporter in the world. The jobs in the export market for this country are many millions of jobs. The widgets we buy from our international traders can't be made in this country for even minimal wages without massively raising the prices on those objects. So in all market decision like this your deciding between jobs and standard of living for the whole country. You do know I hope that there is no country in the world that increases their imports at the rate that China does, it's the ultimate in developing markets in world trade. Other then South Korea we are second biggest trading partner of Chinas for their imports. Looking from this point is by no means a perspective of the potential of the Chinese market for trade of our products, when their import numbers increase in double digest annually. All those jobs will be dumped . All things like this are give and take, so under my points tell me which is better for this country, trade war with China or no trade war. Heres the real point there is absolutely no reason behind doing this other then dealing with a Psychopaths decision made not for the good of the country but for his maniacal ego.
     
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    China is full of crap. They know a trade war will hurt them far worse. They are full of hot air.
     
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    They are doing nothing , they didn't start this want this or need this. Your Psychopath is using his ego not his brain. He's just puffing up to show what a big dick he has , something that seems to be one of the most important things in this maniacs world.
     
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    What I'm realizing is the absence of brain cells that the hate party voters have. SO there seems to be another reason other than shared hatred of everything that got this hate candidate elected. They are stupid also.
     
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    It may be a messy breakup, but it's still better than continuing as we have been. The would-be progressives have already sold this nation down the river by exporting our industry while blaming the corporations (which low-info D voters eat right up) and leaving us with a looming financial crisis that will dwarf 2007/8 like the Great Red Spot dwarfs an Earth hurricane..

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    I think most of the "hate" is on your side of the table, buddy.
     
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    Are you clueless, o just making this stuff up as you go along? Mexico imports more than twice as many American goods as China. China has substantial obstacles to importing American goods.
     
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    Yup , other then South Korea we are the country that they buy their imports from. You need a education on economics there main tool like all countries is setting the value of their currency, making their products cheaper in other currency markets. Something that we do as much or more of then them. We do it by printing money. If you have a clue you will understand what the results of that is. I doubt you have a clue about this but I just don't care , I'm talking to a brick wall to start with when talking to the hate party.
     
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    This is like talking to little children.
     
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    Ironically it's the same argument the slave owners were using, i.e. "if we have to pay plantation workers, the prices will skyrocket". Somehow it worked out ok, don't you agree? Also worth noting is the fact that before the globalization and cheap Chinese labor, the US did pretty good, the middle class was extremely strong and growing, income inequality was low, trade deficit and national debt were manageable...

    It's with the advent of globalization, NAFTA kind of deals and rampant outsourcing that the American middle class is squeezed and shrinking, the gap between the rich and the rest is astronomical, the national debt has reached the level not seen since WWII and all these attributes are deteriorating as we speak.

    Something to ponder about, isn't it?
     
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    Sorry there is inothig secret about. The history is there for anyone who wants to peruse it or has a long enough memory. And the party of hate is very clearly the Democrats it bleeds out of most of the posts they make including yours. There is nothing hateful about enforcing immigration laws. Or any other laws for that matter.
     
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    No one is disputing that we import lots of Chinese goods. I was disputing your foolish claims above regarding THEIR import of our goods. But that's probably why you want to change the topic. I'll take that as an answer that you just make the (*)(*)(*)(*) up as you go along.


    That's nice, has nothing to do with our discussion. What was it I needed an education on?
     

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