My opinion and ideas

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Laurence123, Jan 2, 2017.

  1. Laurence123

    Laurence123 Member

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    In the cases of rape, incest, and the possible loss of the mothers life, including most birth defects that an abortion be given. Also proof of these conditions be a prerequisite under a new law. Also if found that if a prospective mother is abusing her right to an abortion, privilege revocation and a fine should be levied on that person. Adoption and no questions asked drop offs have created better options than abortion. Abstinence should be taught early on in public schools and families perpetually.
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Oh my! You are terribly new to the abortion issue , aren't you.

    This forum is helpful reading if you take the time.


    Could you explain to me how an abortion due to rape or incest differs from an abortion due to consensual sex? The procedure and outcome are exactly the same.



    How does a woman ( no one is a mother unless they've given birth) "abuse" her right to abortion? It is not a "privilege".


    Adoption? No, no woman is under any obligation to disrupt her life , suffer physical damage, and financial ruin to provide someone else with a kid.


    In case you haven't noticed the history of the world, preaching abstinence just does not work.

    Sex education, access to safe affordable birth control and the clinics that provide those services work much better.


    Read the thread : Why I am Against Abortion in Most Cases........
     
  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting. How many of these unwanted children have you adopted?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I highly recommend YOU follow these guidelines the next time you get pregnant. Then it makes sense for YOU, which would be the only person you need worry about.
     
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    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should your opinion be law? Why is it any of your business if a woman aborts 1 or 10 times?

    I disagree. I do not think adoption is a good choice, though I am okay with drop offs as they are better than throwing the child in the dumpster.



    Abstinence only education has been a dismal failure. What works to lower the teen pregnancy rate is comprehensive sex ed and availability of contraception.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bottom line:

    If you don't the responsibility of raising a child, don't put your penis into a vagina without protection.

    The same goes with your opinion. Either step and raise some of these unwanted children, or keep your opinions out of her vagina.
     
  7. Laurence123

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    An abortion due to rape isn't because of promiscuity the opposite of abstinence. And I feel that if a child is brought into this world with physical or mental ailments they are as much of a burden as a blessing. Women who abuse their abortion rights do exist and the affordable healthcare act says most Americans have to contribute paying for them, that isn't fair. In my case education on abstention has worked as well as many others. And the working idea of safe drop zones isn't for the benefit of the child's future family it certainly is for the benefit of that unwanting mothers prospective success and health in life. It is a better option than to carry the possible burden of canceling a potential life.

    Also I would like to say I think that when I am within the capability to do so that it would be a lovely idea to adopt a child.
     
  8. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    So you believe that a woman who has consensual sex and gets pregnant should be forced to give birth.


    Obviously it isn't the fetus you're concerned about.


    Could you explain to me how an abortion due to rape or incest differs from an abortion due to consensual sex? The procedure and outcome are exactly the same.



    How does a woman ( no one is a mother unless they've given birth) "abuse" her right to abortion? It is not a "privilege".


    Adoption? No, no woman is under any obligation to disrupt her life , suffer physical damage, and financial ruin to provide someone else with a kid.


    In case you haven't noticed the history of the world, preaching abstinence just does not work.

    Sex education, access to safe affordable birth control and the clinics that provide those services work much better.
     
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    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    You made the mistake of thinking you could speak rationally with the resident abortionists. Zealots are not interested in discussion, or education, only in shouting down and shutting down anyone who is not an abortionist.

    Setting that aside, your view is close to the view held by the majority of Americans - allow the mother to have discretion in the hardship cases of rape, incest, and life of the mother, but not allow abortion as form of birth control. Birth defects is a gray area.

    What your position implies is that the baby is a person with all rights and protections due any person. In that case, killing the baby outside of the hardship cases should be equated to killing any child - its murder, and the applicable penalty should be applied and its not a fine.
     
  10. FoxHastings

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    Nope, most Americans believe abortion should be legal.

    Believing that only women who are raped have the right to their own reproductive choices is silly...
     

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