Trump Repeats Lie About Popular Vote in Meeting With Lawmakers

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some Americans, myself included, speak Spanish. Why would a ballot not be printed in Spanish? There is no official language of the United States, and as the govenrment is supposed to work for the people, why not print ballots in Spanish if folks prefer those?
     
  2. One Mind

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    To have an opinion that fraud occurred, that illegals voted in a state like Ca that is filled with them, and that is cut from the same cloth as what wilkileaks revealed about the DNC is a valid opinion. Look at what the DNC did, and wanted to do, and then with a straight face tell us it is impossible.

    I have an opinion illegals voted. For I saw what the democrats do in secret. Trump saw it as well. But now the crooks are hollering trump is lying after they have been convicted by their own actions. The bit dog hollers the loudest. And boy dems and MSM are hollering the loudest.
     
  3. liberalminority

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    most Americans speak American as their first language, which is english, there is no logical reason to have ballots in a second language if the goal is getting Americans to vote.

    President Trump may have been right that the popular vote of 3 million came illegally.
     
  4. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I agree with Trump that millions of illegals voted and the election was rigged. Did you read my post? I believe that Trump really lost the election by 6 million votes and that illegal Russian immigrants posing as rural white trailer dwellers in Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin swung the election his way. To quote our new President Donald Trump: "it's rigged, I tell ya"....
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    How could a voting citizen not at the least have a working knowledge of the English language?
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    You speak both no need to print ballots in English if someone did not learn the language of our country in school I have no sympathy for them and there is no constitutional protection for them. And many states do make English their official language.
     
  7. 1up2down

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    5 minutes on youtube clips of DNC members and various clips of news organization shows me enough to support an investigation.

    voter fraud is rampant and it hurts legitimate voters.
     
  8. highntight

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    Comprehension is not your friend.
    In the history off our country there have been less than 30 confirmed cases. That is not 3 plus million. That is not wide spread voter fraud.
    I hope that is dumped down enough for you.
     
  9. BillRM

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    LOL I love it that Trump had painted himself into a corner now assuming he is going to act on his statement sometime in the next 4 years I wonder how he is going to get out of finding no meaningful voter fraud.
     
  10. BillRM

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    Do you think it too late to ask you guys to take us back as our experiment in self government seem too not be doing so well at the moment.

    Long live the queen.
     
  11. TomFitz

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    He repeated the claim three times BECAUSE journalists kept challenging him!!!!!!! Pay attention!
     
  12. 1up2down

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    all voter fraud is meaningful
     
  13. jackdog

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    if it is a lie then the investigation will show there is no cause for worry, otherwise expect a national voter ID law
     
  14. lopey

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    Why aren't ballots printed in native american dialects?
     
  15. liberalminority

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    some citizens legally immigrated to America and only know their native languages like italian, irish, mexican, jewish etc...and the public education system is broken and don't teach english properly like from england.

    the ballots have to accommodate the citizens who don't know how to read or write, or speak different languages.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    How did them become a naturalized citizen then?

    A basic working knowledge which most have before they even enter the 1st grade, if the fail to learn how to read that is their problem but they can ask for assistance at the polling place.

    Well a person who can't read can't use ANY ballot can they, how do you accommodate someone who can't read with a written ballot? And again what citizen can't speak English?

    You DO KNOW that in order to become a naturalized citizen you have to be able to read, write and speak English?

    Naturalization Eligibility Requirements

    Before an individual applies for naturalization, he or she must meet a few requirements. Depending on the individual’s situation, there are different requirements that may apply. General requirements for naturalization are below.

    Be at least 18 years old at the time of filing Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.

    Be a permanent resident (have a “Green Card”) for at least 5 years.

    Show that you have lived for at least 3 months in the state or USCIS district where you apply.

    Demonstrate continuous residence in the United States for at least 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400.

    Show that you have been physically present in the United States for at least 30 months out of the 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400.

    Be able to read, write, and speak basic English.

    Have a basic understanding of U.S. history and government (civics).

    Be a person of good moral character.

    Demonstrate an attachment to the principles and ideals of the U.S. Constitution.

    https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/teachers/naturalization-information
     
  17. Iron River

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    Immigrants are supposed to learn English and swear an oath to the USA in English so if they then want to vote they need to learn the read English. BTW; how do you say "stupid" in mexican?
     
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    I assume you have no problem with a non-partisan investigation that does not contribute to voter suppression?
     
  19. BillRM

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    Hardly true when the votes amounting to the fingers of one hand out of 100s of millions.
     
  20. BillRM

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    An the few millions citizens born in Puerto Rico they need to know English to vote?
     
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    Of course not.

    Of course you and I most likely have very different ideas about what that means. ID is the logical solution. Should be 5 bucks at every DMV, or application for hardship rendering it free. Absentee ballots should require a qualifying demonstrable reason, and scrutiny paid to them.

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    My vote is worth a lot to me. Canceling it with a fraudulent one means a great deal. If you care so little for yours, don't bother. Democracy will survive without you.
     
  22. CourtJester

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    What exactly is voter accountability? One can only assume that using the English language it means voters are accountable for their votes.
     
  23. BillRM

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    Oh beside Puerto Ricans we have the descendants of the people in the south west that was part of the Mexican nation before we send the then whole US army south to seizure the land do they need to vote in English?

    An of course we have the Indian people and so on.
     
  24. BillRM

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    But the tens of thousands voters who are too poor to get the correct ID should not be allow to vote and should be de-franchise as a result.

    Likely far far more people being denial the right to vote then any possible vote caste by fraud.

    A number of federal judges had look at those voter ID laws and come to the correct conclusion that those laws are not design to stop illegal voters but legal but poor voters.
     
  25. CourtJester

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    Well of course. This is not about voter fraud. It is about disinfranchising the poor who are so stupid that they probably can't see the overwhelming benefits of hugh tax cuts for the rich or vast increases in military spending.
     

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