Sorry American liberals but your stance on sanctuary cities is dumb

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  1. Cdnpoli

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    Every country needs a strong border and if all kinds of people and products are moving through undocumented it's not much of a border. And the cities who protect the undocumented people should be punished until they abide by the laws. Businesses should be punished for hiring undocumented workers. This means Americans will have to do all these jobs that undocumented workers have been doing or bring in temporary part timers to do that work if Americans are too lazy to get up off their asses and do it.

    Why don't the democrats run on open borders? If it means so much to you all, you would do it. But how could you win an election on open borders? You wouldn't because it doesn't make sense.

    It makes no sense to waste your energy on an issue that you don't care that deeply for anyway. If you cared it would be a platform. A staple of the Democratic Party. But it's not is it? Because you know it's wrong.
     
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    I agree wholeheartedly. If I close my eyes and just hear this post being read to me it would sound like it came from an American Trump supporters.
     
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    The immediate purpose of creating these "sanctuary cities" is to attract and protect illegal immigrants in an effort to take electoral votes from states who eschew the notion (red states). The distribution of electors is determined by the census' count of ALL residents, regardless of their immigration status. And, long term, to reap the rewards of a fresh new loyal voter community once liberal amnesty, or fast-tracking of citizenship occurs.

    It is not a stupid idea.... it is a diabolical idea... and if nothing changes, the electors will be redistributed after the 2020 census completes. We shall see how many electoral votes California has after that happens, I bet it's going from 55 to 62 or more, at the expense of red states. This will make it more difficult for republicans to win the presidency.
     
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    Sanctuary cities are dumb, dangerous, and illegal. The Fed gov in in charge of immigration.

    Mayors, city council members should be arrested, and all Fed funds to those cities should be withheld.
     
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    Yes, but we will need about 20,000 illegals to pick our food. The Americans are kinda lazy for that work. If so, register the illegals and give them citizenship after 20 years with a small pension...for feeding us.
     
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    No. I hate Trump. And I don't think much of his supporters. But this is one issue where the Democrats are way off base.
     
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    Why are we only concerned with the Southern border? Canadians walk back and forth across the borders every day.
     
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    That's a bunch of mumbo jumbo unless you can prove it.
     
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    First off, great post. Hard to believe I'm agreeing with you so much, here.

    As for your claims that liberals don't care that much about open borders, yes they do. Illegal immigration is the goose that lays the golden eggs for the American left and their Democratic party. Illegals have a ton of kids they can't afford compared to the average American, they require massive amounts of Government assistance, and those kids grow up and vote Democrat 80% of the time. It's in the American left's best interest to continue this as long as possible. Why do you think they are so vehemently opposed to any action to control the border?

    As for why they don't run on open borders are part of their campaign, it's because they know how unpopular the concept of open borders is amongst the general public. The left isn't brave enough in this country to lay their real agenda out on the table and let the American voter decide, so they implement it piece by piece, only advancing when their internal polling says they should.

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    That's because we don't have a huge problem with illiterate, unskilled Canadians sneaking into the US and demanding welfare. Canada is also not a 3rd world country.
     
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    Many white illegals from Russia, Israel, Eastern Europe, etc enter into the USA via NYC, Boston, and other parts of the open East Coast. How do you propose to close these open borders?
     
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    I have never seen anything to actually back this claim up. Americans will work whatever job they can. They may not be happy and they may grumble but they will work. The reason illegals are employed for those jobs more then Americans is because they get paid less to do the job.
     
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    Time to punish anyone who employs undocumented workers. But somethin tells me that Donald trump and the republicans wouldn't actually do what is necessary. They would face a backlash from businesses.
     
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    SORRY LIBERALS , YOUR STANCE ON EVERYTHING IS DUMB. lol. I love Donald Trump.
     
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    I actually agree with going after those who employ illegal immigrants. That would do a lot to cut down on the problem.
     
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    One of the main issues that gets lost in this. The primary reasons cities refuse to enforce immigration laws are
    1) It's not their job
    2) They don't have the budget.

    The cost burden and responsibility of immigration law enforcement lies with the Federal Gov.
     
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    And if they don't do that?

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    They aren't helping their case when they claim their city is a sanctuary for undocumented people.
    And actively state they will fight Trump on the issue. So they did indeed pick a side. They're on the wrong side here.
     
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    Yeah the north border is a back and forth. The south border is pretty much all forth and no back.
     
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    With the tax breaks he's throwing them he could probably get the CEO's to balance a beach ball on their noses and bark like seals.

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    Port of entry control.
     
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    Open boarders would be awesome.
     
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    I would love to see all those draft dodgers who have used our shores to escape the military draft sent back to Israel and Russia. The reception there will not likely be a very happy one for those criminal refugees.
     
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    Or anyone with common sense, really. Maybe there's some hope for cdnpoli yet.
     
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    I saw the term draft dodger and automatically thought of Donald Trump and John Wayne. Sorry.

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    I'm not a Democrat. I'm a Canadian liberal. Don't mistake the two. We are very different.
     
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    Of course. The sooner you become a free thinker rather than a group thinker, though, the better.
     
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    Are you saying I'm not a free thinker? It seems as you are and yet I see you mutter the same points that right wing talking heads give you.
     

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