Trump's immigration order: Myths vs reality.

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  1. goofball

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    Here's the reality. We need to regulate and control those who we let into our nation. If you aren't willing to assimilate peacefully into our society, you should be denied entry.

    Many people from certain countries are intent on destroying our society. We know who they are and where they come from. It's prudent to keep them out.
     
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    Trump cultists are hysterical over that "Left! that festers in their noggin but, increasingly, Republicans in Congress and decorated military veterans are disgusted by the cultists' candy-arse messiah crapping on America.

     
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    Lol, from your article, "The soldier, whom Millsap nicknamed “the Captain,” applied for refugee status through U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services but has been waiting for a decision for nearly three years."

    Looks like YOUR messiah has been "crapping on America"! Where was the outrage...for THREE YEARS? The left has become completely unhinged.
     
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    You see its okay when Obama does something, because he is a democrat. But a Republican does the exact same thing well all of the sudden we are living in 1930s Germany. Well because they're bad and racist and want to abuse women and opress minorities, even though they can't explain how outside of a general concept of some white male Boogeyman.

    For there to be a double standard there would have to be standards to begin with.
     
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    In addition to the Republican politicians and decorated veterans who are speaking out, religious leaders are fulfilling their moral obligation to oppose the candy-arsed messiah's crapping on America.

    His cult is in a tizzy!
     
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    This should cover it...

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  9. Stuart Wolfe

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    ...exist only in your mind.

    ...lest we forget who has a political Messiah, a quick reminder:

    And let us not forget the aforementioned poster also spent four years harping on The Romney Landslide. He can certainly and of a surety deal with the trauma being triggered by his own tactics used against him might cause. Then laugh as he attempts to forestall the very posts he himself foisted upon the forum. 'Tis but to laugh.
     
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    The real hysteria is on the Trump side of things. The Trump administration rolled out this ban in such a ham handed hap hazard manner that now these 10 year olds are jumping all over themselves to back off and re-release it again.. .

    Remember, he also changed his policy on torturing terrorists a few days ago.

    "WASHINGTON —The Trump administration took a major step back late Sunday from its temporary ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries, issuing a clarification that the order does not apply to green-card holders “absent the receipt of significant derogatory information.”

    "Even after Kelly’s statement there were still unanswered questions about what the government intended to do about refugees who had received permission to come to the United States before Trump signed his order Friday afternoon. Two court rulings questioned whether Trump could reject by executive action valid immigration documents issued by the government itself.

    Airports remained the frontline in the battle. Crowds gathered at airports in Miami, Dallas, Cleveland, Charlotte, N.C., New York, Washington, San Francisco and Chicago. Exasperation grew on all sides, and some immigration officials threw up their hands."

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d-on-green-card-holders/ar-AAmnWmD?li=BBnb7Kz

    Nothing but confusion and stupidity on the part of the Trump administration. Just hysterical children pretending they're adults.
     
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    Yes, you can reminisce about the conservative braintrust's orgasmic anticipation of that Romney Landslide! on the eve of the 2012 presidential election in your attempt to divert attention from your messiah's squalid antics, but the real and present disaster he has contrived is the focus of Americans and civilised people everywhere, and will remain so.

    That reality is that, by his discriminating against tens of thousands of decent folks based upon the predominant religions of their nations of origin, he has befouled the reputation of the US, indulged in mindless bigotry, and promoted terrorist recruitment. That is why so many patriots, religious leaders, decorated military veterans, and Republican politicians are outraged.

    The overwhelming likelihood is that his draconian move has not stopped a single terrorist from entering the US. If he had instituted a policy of giving every arrival who admits to liking hummus a devastating wedgie, it would have been every bit as effective.

    Try another diversion if you must. Your pathetic Romney gambit fails.


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    Then do but tell us all why you spent four years after the fact reminiscing about Romney and yet the second someone mentions Hilla or Obama, it's dismissed by your august self as irrelevant because it is in the past? The issue be not whether I liked Romney at all these many years foregone but rather why you spent many a post, as can be documented by the aforementioned search tool of availability 'pon all of us, yet you call upon us not to reference the past as you all but did many a year ago?

    Do but explain why it is that you respond to posts of the left as being mere phantasmagorica in the minds of the right, while you yourself employ the very same strategies regarding what the right itself is?

    Why would you call an argument pathetic when you yourself spent years doing the very thing you decry and it has been proven beyond question that you do?

    Do not take pity 'pon this poor but humble poster who but asks answers from such as yourself, seeking wisdom from you, a one who vomits up copious words and flowery speech to defend his actions. And do not look down 'pon one who but uses your own posts as arguments upon yourself and who asks the board to speak unto you in such ways as you yourself have deemed worthy in years past. For surely one who seeks greatness as yourself would see the true value in emulating the very tactics that you yourself have but done, even unto copying your sagacious words and style. Be not triggered by your own words and utterances used as unto your own self.
     
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    Jesus is involved with America? News to me.

    You're blind hatred of Trump has clouded all ability to reason. Go have a good cry about hillary losing, join antifa in a few protests and when your emotions are back in some control come back and we can have an adult discussion.
     
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    Until the travel ban includes Saudi Arabia, I do not support it. It is an idiotic failure of protectionism. Saudi Arabia is the beating heart of global Jihad.

    All these scumbag senators and congressmen/congresswomen who have investments in anything Saudi ought to be tried for treason. Wahhabism is evil, wicked, and needs to be crushed and erased from human history.

    It can't be as long as Washington elitists are funding their black, evil empire of brutal murder and tyranny.

    So no. I don't care if he has authority, legal or otherwise, to ban travel. Until this country wakes the (*)(*)(*)(*) up to the horror of Saudi Arabia, a travel ban will do absolutely nothing. They will continue poisoning the minds of fragile people via internet, they will poison the minds of those in the EU, etc, areas not covered by this ill conceived and flaccid ban.

    You waste my time, Trump.
     
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    I would ask anyone that opposes the ban to first pull their head out of their ass and then look to what's going in on European nations where there has been mass muslim immigration; places like France, Germany, the Uk and Sweden. In Sweden alone there is a rape epidemic of young muslim men raping Swedish women. Nations int he middle east that are predominantly muslim do not share western values. The people that come from these nations most often refuse to assimilate and show disrespect for the native residents. This is not an opinion but an observable fact. It's ironic that the American left claims to be for gay rights and feminism yet they will stick up for people from these middle east islamic cultures that actually believe in things like killing gays for being gay, killing women in honor killings, accepting the rape of women etc etc etc. Yet I, a conservative American who thinks these things are horrible, am the bad guy for pointing out the truth. Gotta love that liberal logic!

    Mass muslim immigration into the US is nothing but a suicide pact.
     
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    You seem to have left out those on the right which do not agree with Trumpet's ban also..
     
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    Is a delusional presumption on your part. I have repeatedly endorsed his promise to protect Medicare and Social Security, reduce the role of lifer lobbyists in Washington, create a "beautiful" health care plan that covers "everybody." I don't support his labeling George W Bush a "Liar!" in his promoting false pretexts for his disastrous war, but his general point is valid. Once he stopped supporting the Bush's war, he admitted its foolishness.

    The Trump Cult may be incapable of a rational appraisal of his specific policies, but I readily credit those in which he is sensible.

    His aiding and abetting terrorists by religious discrimination is not one of his more creditable antics, as Republican politicians, decorated military veterans, religious leaders, and spokespersons for nations allied with the United States enthusiastically concur.



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    You mean the hardcore libertarians? That group of people that thinks if we have absolutely no laws at all then the goodness of man will shine through in every human being and we'll have no conflict or need and everything will be sunshine and roses?

    Yeah let's listen to those guys!
     
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    The "Left!" that festers in some noggins has become a catch-all. It now includes most Americans, prominent GOP politicians, conservative religious leaders, decorated military veterans, and America's allies around the world - as well as climatologists, of course.

    They're everywhere! They're everywhere!


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    Poor attempt to deflect the thread in another direction. Here, let me help you out........and end this deflection on flip-flopping now.

    Obama and Hillary both OPPOSED gay marriage, before they supported it.

    Now, try to focus on the subject at hand......if you can.

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    Do you have a link to your posts showing the same fake outrage when Obama did the same thing? Surely we aren't witnessing rank hypocrisy on your part here.
     
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    McCain and Graham? I don't consider them on the right.
     
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    I would ask that any demagogue swallowing this excuse ridden BS by the administration to look very carefully at the middle east. Every instance of terrorism is a tentacle, extending from the massive conflux at the center - SAUDI ARABIA.

    When YOU, and the rest of the elites on Washington, as well as any other frothing protectionist realize that this is the case, maybe we'd have a ban that works.

    Until then, we'll just ignore reality with these stupid and idiotic travel bans.
     
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    Trumpies' desperate attempt to pretend that their messiah is doing something that his predecessor did has been exposed. The ingénue cannot hide behind Obama.

     
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    I'm not denying that Saudi Arabia is a bad actor on the world stage but not every muslim man who has raped a woman in Sweden is Saudi, in fact most aren't. Al of the sexual assaults committed in other nations like Germany and the UK are not because of the Saudis.


    Seems like you are the one who wants to deny reality.
     
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    No. I don't give a damn about platitudes and nonsense. The root of the evil tree of Jihad is firmly planted in Saudi Arabia. Our concern is Islamic Terrorism, is it not? If it is, then cut the tree at the root, don't trim the branches - when you do, the tree just grows more rapidly.

    We must seek to destroy it at it's root. Wahhabism must be eradicated at all costs.
     

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