Appeals Court rejects Trump's request!!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-denies-justice-request-immediately-090952370.html

The Appeals Court has rejected Trump's request to suspend the Federal Judge's stop of his partial Muslim ban.

Trump now has to appeal to the Supreme Court, which has a 4-4 split.

If they rule before a new justice is approved, a 4-4 ruling means the Appeals Court ruling stays.

Looks like Trump's partial Muslim ban is toast!!!

 

Once again. in your haste to see Trump defeated, you are not waiting for things to play out. The Justice Department has until 3 PM Monday (PST) to file a reply brief in Appeals Court.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ashington-judges-travel-ban/story?id=45274114

 

it will be rejected.

the smart thing to do is to suspend Trump's order until it can go to a full trial.

best to be safe then sorry.

best to suspend a possibly illegal/unConstitutional order than to enforce it.

 

I see that you agree that the courts are politicized. That they rule on personal political preference rather than the law itself. That is precisely why you are able to predict a 4-4 deadlock by the Supreme Court. More legislating from the bench. Why are you not appalled by that?

 

no, its just that the 9th Circuit is more liberal than conservative.

it is what it is.

deal with it.

 

The real point is that there is no reason for the ban. Placing the ban Trump is simply slopping the Hogs The immigrants are heavily vetted currently.

 

The 9th circus. The most overturned court in the country. Even with a 4/4 split SCOTUS is likely to overturn the ruling.

 

You mean immigrants who are heavily vetted like the Orlando gay nightclub shooter and his wife who they let get away?

 

Honestly, I want Trump to look over the FBI next. They lost the Orlando Shooter, the San Bernardo shooter, etc, etc. There have been so many failures over in the last 8-9 months that a critical review is in order.

 

he was radicalized after he entered the USA

 

Or Muslim refugees joining ISIS. The problem is that the ones in this story most likely came to the US as children. Try vetting against that.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...nds-in-minnesota-to-fight-alongside-isis.html

 

If you are to let one apple that is bad with other apples, they all turn bad. these people have been away to arab areas at some time, so, due to your own 'western ideals,' they all come back suicide bombers. you call the arab people savage for what they do to women and so forth, getting very petty, but now you seem to want to be flooded by arabs? i bet if you phoned up the arab world, you will find they don't actually like you, by the way.

Now, banning muslims from entering the country you could say is discrimination like of the hitler sort, yes? well, that is probably what you will say now, of course. if you allow arabs into the u.s.a. then you have to see where they went and why they went there, a quick invasion of privacy, hoo ha. if parents can say who is in their house, and he is your parent in power, then he says who is allowed into the country, of course?

Think for a moment, this miserly amount of syrians are the people that rebelled against assad - do you know why they rebelled against assad? because he was killing them. why was he killing them? because they were trying to be politically correct with harassing his public sector staff. this is like saying hey i love you to someone then stabbing them in the back with a knife, something akin to what happened with new york and l.a. with their marches - they are destabilizing the country by reducing it's ability to glean taxes and letting their employers down, yes? this means you will have a lot of people marching with some throwing petrol bombs soon, like in the rest of the world! there is no difference, it is just a relay effect, where, one person produces a more biased edge after the previous one, in a society, where the pressure grows into a frenzy.

So, do you really want 'rebels' coming to america? these people had the option to move to a protected city, where people listen to the president, and try to live good lives. these people were like the new york people i spoke of, of course.

 

You'd think with all the targeting of gay people some reputable SJW's would try to stop the carnage but they don't seem to care. You can throw blindfolded gay men off three story buildings in Muslim countries and post videos and you won't hear a peep about it from any of them.

 

Um, he was born in New York, he was not an immigrant.

 

Are you saying Allah waited to infect his brain until he reached the US?

 

actually, turns out he was born in the USA

 

What compels you to state that there is no reason for President Trump to issue his Executive Order? Do you not think that he might know something you don't? Something none of us know? There is a concept embedded in our Intelligence Community's modus operandi called "Need to know". Some information must be kept from the public. Sounds shady, right? It's actually necessary. If the public knows -- so do our adversaries.

One thing he does know, as do I and everyone who looks at this with eyes of reason and logic, is that the core reason the Executive Order included those seven countries is that the countries themselves are the ones who have no effective system in place to ensure that vetting is done ON THEIR END! There's no effective apparatus in place in those countries to make sure the person getting on the plane is actually who they're supposed to be.

This is NOT a "Muslim ban". There are over 40 countries with majority Muslim populations who are not on the list. Do you know why? It's because they do have acceptable systems in place to ensure proper vetting.

If it were a Muslim ban - a reasonable person would think that all those other countries would also be affected, wouldn't they?

What the Executive Order does is place a temporary hold so that WE have time to actually conduct proper vetting. It also serves notice to those seven countries that setting up proper vetting procedures is their responsibility and the onus is now on them to do so.

All those held over last weekend were eventually allowed to proceed. Instead of using that as a talking point against the EO, an objective analysis should conclude that the Order worked! All it takes is missing just one instance to cause disaster -- and the activist liberal courts' shortsighted and partisan rulings may very well be setting up that scenario.

President Trump is damned if he does by the left - and damned if he doesn't by everyone...including the left. The left are going to hate him and his decisions either way. Our President has the right and the responsibility to do what he feels is necessary to protect our citizens first . It's not his duty to pander to the critics who foolishly believe that briefly inconveniencing people who are not US citizens and, therefore, have no right whatsoever to enter our country outweighs the need to place our safety interests first.

Playing partisan games with the lives of our citizens is an absolutely childish fallacy that will bite us.

The President's Executive Order IS LEGAL - regardless of what left-leaning courts may rule. That will be proven eventually - there is no doubt about that.

If someone gains entry due to improper vetting - just one single time - do you think the judges who ruled against the President's Order should be held accountable for any death/destruction that results?

Would you be willing to accept personal responsibility if you were one of those judges?

Saying "It hasn't happened before...so why should we think it'll never happen again?" is a foolish circular logic argument that no one with common sense would make.

I understand the need to question our leaders. I always do - and I do my own research when things like this happen. I rely on my past experience of 25 years in the Intelligence Community to weed through the distractions to the truth behind issues like this. I do not allow partisan ideological agendas and skewed narratives to blur my vision. No responsible citizen should.

I'm watching our President like a hawk. I had serious initial concerns about his candidacy that were calmed when I came to realize that the only reason he would possibly want to become President is due to his underlying love for his country.

I'm sure that sounds ridiculous to you - and it's your right to feel that way. All anyone can ever ask of a fellow American is to take a realistic look at what is really happening with the Executive Order and decide if all this uproar is really worth it. All we're talking about is temporarily inconveniencing people who are very thankful for even the opportunity to come to our country.

If their intentions are peaceful...wouldn't they welcome a measure put in place to make sure we are doing all we can to make sure their stay here is also peaceful?

 

I guess many people would rather believe high society chit-chat than what's going on in the world. Even the New York Times admits, in a front-page article spanning 2 1/2 whole pages, that terror attackers in the West are Not ‘Lone Wolves’ After All and How ISIS Guides Plots by Remote Control (link to same article, separated for grammar).

 

They're only properly vetted once we vet them...and that takes time. People coming from those countries are not subjected to in-depth vetting. That's why it's only those 7 countries that are affected - and not ALL Muslim countries.

 

What kind of thought process leads you to believe that temporarily inconveniencing people who are not even US citizens is so egregious?

Why do you think that it's best to prevent the President from doing what he feels is necessary to protect our citizens?

How does that even compute?

This isn't permanent. We're not shipping them off to prison camps.

We're simply making them wait until we can be sure they are who they say they are.

What am I missing?

 

Appeals court rejects Trumps request!

We've got the same sort of traitorous judges here in Britain who are out to defy the will of the government and the people-

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When the next terror attack hits the US, I want you to remember that you helped make it possible.

 

I worked at the WTC after 9-11, and breathed in that filthy air for months.

I worked at the 9-11 10th Anniversary Memorial ceremony, and looked into the eyes of thousands of relatives of the murdered.

what did YOU do?

 

Yes and when he was a child he cheered the WTC attack.

Where do you think he learned that?

 

prove it