Why do lefties on this forum think at anyone has a RIGHT to come to the US

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is it that only the left are willing to put Americans at risk from radical muslim terrorist that may come here with out a ban.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read about how a right wing president and congress approved funding for the U.S. to lead the Crusades.

    It's amazing how evil we are.
     
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    Deflection +4 card!
     
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    I have to agree. The wording is wrong because liberals do not think.
     
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    And......., not a single answer from a lib here. Not surprising in the least
     
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    They may like you to believe that they, the liberal, cant be read, but that's simply not true! They are by example, combatant in discussion and violent in demonstration! So if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then logic would serve that it's a damn duck :roflol:
     
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    If you're not an American citizen, you should not be able to claim American rights.

    We have been letting immigrants into the U.S. for a long time; if our Constitution is so "outdated", so are our immigrant policies.
     
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    I doubt many think that there is a constitutional right to immigrate. The constitution is silent on immigration. We think it good policy to allow for some immigration and we think it is humane and consistent with our historic nature and values to allow people who yearn for freedom and a chance for a better life. It is also great public relations and excellent for our image as a magnet for liberty and democracy.

    Many of us believe immigration has been mostly a boon to this country, not some sort of albatross.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am a Lefty and I don't think anyone has a "right" to come here.
     
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    Aliens can be classified as unlawfully present for one of three reasons: entering without authorization or inspection, staying beyond the authorized period after legal entry, or violating the terms of legal entry.
    Section 1325 in Title 8 of the United States Code, "Improper entry of alien", provides for a fine, imprisonment, or both for any noncitizen who:
    enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration agents, or eludes examination or inspection by immigration agents, or attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact. The maximum prison term is 6 months for the first offense and 2 years for any subsequent offense. In addition to the above criminal fines and penalties, civil fines may also be imposed.

    Specific Laws controlling immigration into the United States of America have been in force since 1790. As far as rights are concerned, people coming from foreign lands have no rights under American laws other than inalienable rights given to us by our creator. I list at least 39 laws and modifications regulating immigration to America, the latest of which regulates the following:
    • Requires use of IDs meeting certain security standards to enter government buildings, board planes, open bank accounts.
      [*]Created more restrictions on political asylum
      [*]Severely curtailed habeas corpus relief for immigrants
      [*]Increased immigration enforcement mechanisms
      [*]Altered judicial review
      [*]Established national standards for state driver licenses.
      [*]Cleared the way for the building of border barriers.
    So according to Federal Law, immigration to America does have legal restrictions and specifics controlling illegal immigration and is more than just a minor offense. Progressive Marxist Fascists use legal weasel words to confuse the issue. BTW, my source was Wikipedia.org and

    1911. 8 U.S.C. 1325 -- Unlawful Entry, Failure To Depart ...
    [https://www.justice.gov/usam/crimin...ful-entry-failure-depart-fleeing-immigration]
    Title 8, U.S.C. 1324(a) Offenses; ... Section 1325 sets forth criminal offenses relating to (1) improper entry into the United States by an alien, (2) ...
     
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    Also the Constitution does not apply to non-citizens. :salute:
     
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    best to just ignore your posts
     
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    Quack!!!
     
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    Constitution applies to all persons on US territory.
     
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    However, the President has the authority to limit access to immigrants if our national security is at risk. This is why the district ruling will not stand. Unfortunately it will take the Supreme Court to clear the air, but if that's what it takes to protect our country from a radical enemy, so be it.
     
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    This is probably the REAL reason the left is so pissedoff about the election. The SCOTUS will NOT be stacked with left wing nut jobs in the forseeable future. God bless Donald Trump for that.:flagus:
     
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    http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/us-deny-entry-inadmissibility-reasons-29715.html
     
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    No such right, agreed.

    So then why exactly are lefties so up in arms at the idea of vetting our immigration? Stopping people from coming in who arent coming in legally? Doing extra vetting of those we know in larger numbers than other religions/regions want to harm us?

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    I think what leftwingers think, is very obvious. They shout it at the top of their lungs right in peoples faces at these riots.
     
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    you might throw the term around lot but you have no clue what logic means.

    Trying to rewrite the question to one you are more comfortable with is not logical and merely evidence that you cannot address the question or present a good argument.

    The OP meant what he wrote he did not mean something different. So why not simply answer the question?

    Or perhaps if you do not agree with the premise explain who should be allowed in and who should not?
     
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    Because they never think beyond emotion.
     
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    I don't know of any lefty who is against vetting. You're making it up.
     
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    Not at all. Lefties are constantly accusing people who want vetting of being racist. Therefore, they clearly are against it. Why is this?
     
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    They want other races to come here and breed and displace whites in the hopes that those minorities will always vote Democrat and they can then gain totalitarian control over the government. That is what this is all about in the final equation. They hate white people and want to relegate them to permanent minority status.
     
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    He said left wingers. So what are your thoughts. It's not rocket science knowing what the left thinks about unfettered immigration just from comments on this forum and "progressive" MSM outlets. Who is doing the protesting and breaking windows? Actions are louder than words.

    And by the way, those racist Japanese are banning immigrants. :grin: Some of the rest of the world is waking up and smelling the coffee. The real question is, what does a lefty stand to gain from American culture and economy drain? Answer those questions honestly, I think we have the answer. Actually, we already know the answer. We just want to hear you say it and own it.
     
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    Bunk. Why do Republicans want to stop Democrats from voting on issues?
     

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