Does anyone else see how Trump is leading us to WWIII?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lucifer, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    What would you expect to find in a personal tax return that isn't found in the numerous public filings of Trump's corporations with regard to Russian conflicts of interest?
     
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    I dont think not respecting the Trump Presidency is a threat to our democracy. I hope the right remembers that Trump was actually voted for by the minority of people in the U.S. almost half the population did not vote in this Election, and Hillary won the Majority vote by over 2 million.
     
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    Jeez, you start a bogus hysterical "Trump is leading us to WWIII" thread and you can't even imagine who the enemy is. Duh :D
     
  4. Lucifer

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    Then why not make it public and remove all doubt?
     
  5. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    Considering the fact that Trump's promise to "bring back jobs to America" is not supported by any real detailed economic strategy that conforms to the reality of the 21st century, WAR could be a convenient tool to make good on a promise.
     
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    Oh I see. A stunning example of liberal logic, Trump promised to bring jobs back => WWIII is imminent.. Never mind that they can't imagine who the enemy is. Duh
     
  7. Lucifer

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    Obviously you are not a student of history.

    But please, do explain why this Travel Ban is sooo important, since it does not cover any of the countries we really need to worry about.
     
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    Instead of Safety-pins, perhaps they should be buying Binky's and they can pacify themselves.
     
  9. Borat

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    I like you debating style:

    Trump is leading us to WWIII
    no, he can't deliver on his job promises
    no, his travel ban does not make sense

    It's called throwing mud at the wall, hoping some of it will stick.

    Anyway, millions of un-vetted people with no documents, fake documents or unverifiable documents from those countries (with the exception of Iran perhaps) flooded Europe, they are heavily infiltrated by ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations, many of them are fundamentalists, Islamic radicals and terrorist sympathizers. Trump does not want these people in the US, at least until they are absolutely thoroughly vetted. I hope this explanation somehow alleviates your fear of WWIII :D
     
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    I saw tears in Schumer's face over the prospect of Americans not losing jobs and college enrollments to non-Americans.
     
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    Thank you for proving again the hypocrisy of the right wing partisan. Now lies don't matter to you, and certainly the idea that Trump got a good man killed (and Trump is still a coward) to prove his "manhood", or is it just his desire to be in control, won't matter to you either:

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/02/donald-trump-orders-raid.html
     
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    Think of it as culling the herd. The general consensus among scientist is the earth can only support 10 billion humans, at current growth it is estimated we will be 10.9 billion by the year 2050, so we might as well get it done now instead of waiting to the last minute!
     
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    As long as they pay for them, sure! But so far we the tax payers are on the hook for 1800#, puppy's, counseling and in some cases anxiety drugs! So if it's going to cost me for a rubber pacifier they I say let them buddy up and share each others thumbs!
     
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    We are already in WWIII.
     
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    Sorry but WWIII has been going on for 10 years now. The media just refuses to call it that. For now the spin term is war on terror. As for Trump he is just the guy the elite want in charge gives them plausible deniabilty from the atrocities yet to come. Behind closed doors they are giving him a pat on his tush.
     
  16. Lucifer

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    Isn't that how Trump won?

    The question is, did it work on you?

    You have any actual numbers to go with the section underlined?

    And that is Europe as you pointed out. Vetting into the US is as long as 18 to 24 months for Syrian refugees. And the total number of US terror attacks by any refugee group is still NONE. I am curious however, as to how Trump's vetting will verify one as a Christian (or other minority religion), let alone how constitutional it will be?

    The only things that can be said with any certainty is that this will fuel ISIS recruiting efforts, so I hardly see any real positive. The US under Obama had been talking at something like no more than 85k refugees, but considering the political environment, it's even unlikely it will go above the 10k that have been accepted as of summer 2016. However, logic and facts seems to be absent in any of Trump's decisions thus far, except to stoke the flames of fear among his followers.
     
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    I agree, from a historical perspective we have been engaged in a World War already for 10 years.
     
  18. Lucifer

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    Who do you mean by the "elite"? If you are referring to the usual suspects that reside in the dark corners of the conspiracy net, I don't buy it.
     
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    Yawn. you asked for an explanation and it's very simple. Millions of un-vetted people from those countries (not from other countries) are already wreaking havoc all over Europe and Trump wants to protect the US from the same fate that France and Germany are suffering. All your regurgitation of liberal/media absurd talking points doesn't change the fact that they are coming from those countries, there are millions of them, they are un-vetted and they are heavily infiltrated by terrorists, fundamentalists, Islamists.

    PS the "we must please islamists or else ISIS will recruit them" argument is frankly the most ridiculous and absurd nonsense ever used in a debate, no wonder it's beloved by the libs and MSM talking heads who think it's "clever". Newsflash, it is not.
     
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    Yes....IMO we need to recognize this, make a plan to win, and have a plan to handle the fallout.
     
  21. Lucifer

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    And yet you have not shown a damn thing how it would protect the US, and dismiss the recruiting argument as absurd, even though it comes from the frontline intelligence people, not the MSM. Sheeple are too damn predictable.
     
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    So you want to let in millions of people whose loyalty is not with the US but with Islam when we are at war with Islam (your premise, not mine). Brilliant :D
     
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    Uh, where did I say that?

    Is this your debating style? It's quite amateurish. You haven't been studying Conway closely enough.

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    Any ideas?
     
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    yeah, not letting in millions of people infiltrated by terrorists, fundamentalists, terrorist sympathizers etc will protect the US from terrorists, fundamentalists and terrorist sympathizers Duh

    ISIS recruited hundreds of thousands while spineless Obama who refused to utter "Islamic terror" was in power, ISIS became the monster that it is during 8 years of Obama's administration. ISIS don't need "America does not accept refugees" gibberish to recruit, they have hundreds of Islamic grievances against the west, real and imaginary at their disposal. Muslims don't care if our borders are locked, in fact they think we are complete idiots when they find out that they are wide open. Use your brain dude, don't mindlessly repeat this nonsense that Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews spew.
     
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    You acknowledged that we've been at war with Islam for 10 years and you whine about not letting in millions of muslims loyal to Islam not the US or western values, let alone terrorists and fundamentalists that infiltrated them.
     

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