Is Christianity really as violent as Islam?

No you haven't you have stated misconceptions and untruths. You claimed a ban on travel from seven counties is a ban on muslims traveling to the United States. However muslims can travel here freely from 188 other countries. I just stated a fact that refutes the entire basis for your argument.

Islam is an ideology. Muslims are not. Many muslims do not adhere to the ideology. You suggesting they do is a big generalization.

No, they are questions. The fact that most muslims don't adhere to islamic ideology doesn't indicate Islmic ideology is at war with humanity. So the only fact you stated is irrelevant.

 

Your facts? Facts are facts you don't make them up. I'm ignoring your mischaracterizing of events. It's based solely on hatred of the president.

That's okay, you'd likely be ineffective at stopping anything. You'd just cry "bigotry" and because you do it so often when there is no bigotry nobody would believe you.

It's the only weapon in your arsenal and it's broken and rusty.

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Islamic ideology is at war with muslims. It kills far more muslims than anybody else.

 

You are against an idea but not the people that follow it? Hilarious. It's like saying I don't discriminate against gays....just everything they believe in. Lol

 

wrong as usual.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2323664

 

You said they don't follow it. Your mantra is "99.9% of Muslims have never attacked us." You said it dozens of times. If they don't attack us, than they don't follow the ideology, because Allah commanded all followers of islam to kill Al-fitnah. If they don't kill Al-fitnah they do not follow the commands of Allah, thus they do not follow islamic ideology. Islamic ideology isn't a cafeteria.

That is because you don't understand what islamic ideology is. You're just talking out of your arse.

There are people that don't discriminate against gay poeple but just disagree with them.

Disagreement isn't bigotry, why can't you understand that?

 

You do understand you are misinterpreting the Koran ....don't you. The bible literally tells you to kill all kinds of people. It says it is an abomination to eat shellfish. It says gays are an abomination. That is the literal written of God in the bible. Now many people choose not to follow that literal word. The sane is true for 99.9 percent of muslins. This is a simple fact. You deny this? Lol

 

So, you tell me, how to interpret this verse to mean anything but kill them.

"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.

If christians did after the Renaissance as a common practice than they'd be no better. But the western world went through a period of enlightenment and abandoned the barbaric crap in the bible.

Thus they do not follow fundamentalist 4th century christian ideology.

No, I stated that in the post you responded to. Lol. They do not follow islamic ideology. Islamic ideology commands them to kill Al-fitnah

 

Christian theology commands christians to find you as an abomination. Some still do. God commands them. Most ignore it....just like most muslins ignore that passage in the koran. You deny this?

 

Let's narrow the parameters of discussion, to wit, violence is scoped to violence directed against people who do not practice the subject religion (religious wars and killing only) and violence is limited to the time period following Christian reformation. With those parameters imposed clearly islam is the more dangerous religion. Now if we further limit our discussion to modern times there can be no question that islam is the more dangerous religion. Seriously, whose life is currently at risk from Christians for opting out of Christianity?

 

Honestly, that is the old testament, and christians aren't Jewish. But be that as it may, in western culture christianity went through a Renaissance. They no longer practice hebrew tribal traditions. If they did adhere to 4th century christian ideology I would feel the same way about it.

Jews not christians. God commanded them to love each other and to love God. Jesus is the christian God.

They may be on the cusp of a Renaissance that would be a good thing. But islamic ideology currently exists. The distant future and the distant past though interesting and hopeful is not relevant to what is currently happening.

 

Right now...today...99.9 percent of muslims are choosing not to attack non believers. Today. Right now. Face it. These are facts

 

Supporting Jihad attacks, financing them, or failing to speak out against them, comprise guilt as well as conducting the attacks. I look at the following and see a pattern.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

 

Have you SEEN European history and/or American history?! That answers so much of the question... and not necessarily in favor of "Christianity".

I have learned that a belief or philosophy tends to take on the characteristics of the human beings 'wielding' the same. SO MANY times I've seen good, decent and compassionate people bearing virtually all labels.

So, I'm not buying that Islam is somehow worse and Christianity is better.

 

So 1.6 billion muslims are all in on this?

 

They aren't relevant facts. There are some that adhere to Islamic ideology. And we can't read their minds. So we ban travelers from 7 of 53 muslim majority countries. They don't have the right to come here, nobody does. The measure is appropriate.

Those countries are hostile, or harbor hostile elements. They don't make up 100% of the world muslim population so approx 90% of the 99.9% of Muslims that aren't at war with us are still able to travel here.

 

Why are Saudi Arabia immigrants able to travel here and even apply for flight school? Remember 9/11? Do you understand how ridiculous this ban is? Have you even thought about it?

 

What rights are you speaking of? My voting record contradicts that claim.

 

If you support gay rights and I got that wrong then I apologize

 

Gay rights ! What rights don't gays have ?

 

I don't know your precise meaning of "in on this." What percentage of 1.6 Billion condone the Jihadist attacks? Who really knows?

 

I have no idea what Muslims believe in their hearts. We can be pretty clear on how many have attacked the US. 000.1 percent

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I don't want to side track but in many states you can still fire someone for being gay.

 

They dont have to be in an organization .

Anyway heres a list of what they did just last year

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/terror-2016.htm

I could go on but it would require more space than the site permits

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Who said that

The Pope is not Jesus

 

That amounts to 0.001 percent of all Muslims. Thanks for making that clear

 

Sure but one wonders what you call a right?

Let me sniff this out a bit.

Boy meets girl of legal age.

She blurts out, hey we are married so let's have sex and children.

That to me is a right.

But when one must be licensed to do any activity, I believe you lost rights then.

Are you married to a man?

You know, this is actually important to me. i had a homosexual brother and he accepted what it meant to him. He died at age 44 i think it was and in all out thousands of talks, not once did he protest he was not able to marry a man. I actually believe, per him, he wanted a child thus what did he seek? He sought a woman and married her. This he said. Some think at his early demise in the fairly early 80s means he had AIDs. Nope his problem was known affectionately as Al Co Hol. Al got the best of my brother and took out his liver. Then in the hospital his kidneys failed. He lasted a few days when his pals took him to the hospital and died almost suddenly. He was in an induced coma for most of the time. I spent a week in NY City with him when he was a still young man. I met the man he had sex with. I really am no fan of a man doing what he did to a man. But It is their affair and their business.

Marriage in my view and the view of many scholars is mostly for the benefit to the male who wants his children to keep rights to the fathers property. Be it land or money or herds of animals, the marriage was to deal with the family line. It would be chaotic if the men in a group had sex with any woman they wanted to. There comes a time in civilization when the male wants to be assertive and kind of mark his domain. Be it his woman or his kids, he wants them for his benefit. Many cultures do not recognize love as a quality needed to marry. They recogniae other traits. Such as size of property. The woman was always named as the inferior so the parents to get a man to marry her, used property of theirs, handed to the daughter, as a chip to bargain with to entice the man to marry her. If she doubled his wealth, she was a great catch.

Males wish their life continue and if they die, through their children. Many cultures globally assert the women are really inferior to the men. Morally they are wrong, but that is the way the cookie crumbles.

So, i can comprehend two males desiring a greater wealth through combining. But what else do they want to wish for marriage?

Straight males seem to my tastes to take far too much interest in the topic of men wedding men. That would be a topic my own brother would enjoy. But he did not ever discuss this with me. Wonder why not? He had 44 years to do it.

By the way, any one or two liner from you will be entirely ignored. If you want a decent dialogue, let's have one.

Back to your point. All humans deserve equal rights. When I got married two times, the state never took it as a right. The first marriage, the two of us were forced by law to get a blood test. And submit it to the state. My last marriage did not need the blood test. Both times the state stepped in and demanded we purchase a permit slip, called a license. To make it good, then another official had to sign off on it. Then they registered it with the state. Does that sound permissive of rights to you?

 

That doesnt count all those who killed other Muslims in wars and thats just last year.