Major Blow to Obamacare Mandate: IRS Won't Reject Tax Returns That Don't Answer Healt

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Or he made the whole thing up.
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure I can find any number of people whining and screaming and crying over the loss of The Obama's only major legislative success.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, especially after the new republican plan comes out.... but that will be on republicans
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    So you agree that some people DO care about the impending destruction of Obamacare, contrary to your earlier implication.
    Thank you .
     
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    Weird, this is the first I have heard that, cite please!
     
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    Which was absolutely true when that statement was made. True until just today, or yesterday.

    You'll have to come up with a better effort than that. That's how it goes!
     
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    So prove anyone went to jail for violating the mandate
     
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    navigator2 Banned

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    80% were insured before Obama bumfuzzled health care. No, it wasn't perfect, but it was better than the crap on the exchanges out there. Only the ones getting it free are happy with it. And by the way, 80% is a landslide. It's not even close.
     
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    I think this is not news, republicans have already declared they are replacing Obamacare, so all healthcare issues from that point they touch it are all on them

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    "Wal-Mart Memo Suggests Ways to Cut Employee Benefit Costs " 2005

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/business/26walmart.ready.html?pagewanted=all

    "Wal-Mart executives said the memo was part of an effort to rein in benefit costs, which to Wall Street's dismay have soared by 15 percent a year on average since 2002. Like much of corporate America, Wal-Mart has been squeezed by soaring health costs. The proposed plan, if approved, would save the company more than $1 billion a year by 2011."

    "Ms. Chambers acknowledged that 46 percent of the children of Wal-Mart's 1.33 million United States employees were uninsured or on Medicaid."

    an interesting Article, Walmart claims Healthcare raising by 15% a year back in 2005 under complete republican control...
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Do I have to prove that people go to jail for not paying their taxes? Really? LOL...I must prove nothing to you. Why don't you go ask Wesley Snipes how it worked out for him not paying taxes.
     
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    I agree - it is -not- news that many on the left lament the destruction of Obamacare; up until a few minutes ago, you believed otherwise.
    Glad I could set you straight.
     
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    I supported a public option, we never got that.....

    I do not support the conservatives individual mandate

    but once republicans said they were destroying the ACA, it's all on them going forward to replace it
     
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    There's news for you:
    Wal Mart is cheap and will not cover medical costs of employees. You know, I'll bet Wal Mart won't buy employees food or subsidize their housing, or
    transportation, or dental or educational costs or any other private expense one can think of.

    So why not have the government mandate that at as well? Wouldn't that fix everything if the government forced everyone to pay double or triple their taxes so some people could have their expenses covered?

    Sounds like a wonderful plan. See what happens when you "think" life a Bernie Sanders leftist?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you must of missed this part "which to Wall Street's dismay have soared by 15 percent a year on average since 2002. "
     
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    There's no need whatsoever to replace it; in fact, repealing the individual mandate is all that really need be done to kill Obamacare.
    Since you do not support the individual mandate, you should be happy with that.
     
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    Nope. Didn't miss that at all. Has Obama Care brought insurance premiums down? Nope! It has not.
     
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    Premiums are up and so are out of pockets, deductibles and coinsurance pays. Hell, most people with it can't afford to use it. And who is going to pay for this so-called public option? The ones with private insurance?
     
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    The dirty secret of Obama Care is it is designed to be so expensive and ineffective that people supposedly will scream for the government to take over
    health care and we'll be stuck with a single payer system ipso facto!

    Do you like how the VA runs their hospitals? Just wait until the entire nation is put onto a VA type health system.
     
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    I can't speak to your income level but if the reason was because coverage was too expensive then, for a married couple making $100,000 the penalty would have been ZERO.

    https://taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/estimator/isrp/

    You might try another accountant.
     
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    Coverage is certainly more expensive than it used to be. Mine has just about doubled in price since the ACA went into effect and my out-of-pocket maximum is more than 50% higher than what it was.

    The liberals on this forum told us we needed the ACA because coverage was too expensive. Now coverage is more expensive under the ACA, and not surprisingly the liberals tell us we still need the ACA. They are clearly so emotionally invested in the abysmal failure of a program that they are simply going to disregard the undeniable fact that it simply isn't doing what they promised it would do.

    The CEO of Aetna says that Obamacare is going into a death spiral. All the evidence suggests he is correct.
     
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    Last time I checked, 1,982.50 is a penalty. Good thing that site wasn't a sharp object or you might have gotten hurt.:roflol:

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    Your Estimated Shared Responsibility Payment
    Based on the information you provided and any changes during the year, your estimated shared responsibility payment is: $1,982.50


    :roflol:
     
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    Well at 8.05 percent of a 100K that's a mighty fine accountant ;) Granted this relies on plan availability, area and plan costs within the persons network! Even then, with subsidies, it still pretty difficult to attain hardship status.
     
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    That's been the problem with the ACA from the start! I was poorly designed in conjunction with state to state availability! It was fine at first with while subsidies offset costs but they were always scheduled to go away. The Republican laid all this out in detail and as predicted if left to stand on it's own would fail and it's right on schedule!
     

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