Socialists, who do you plan to tax?

I would put a 3% tax on sales and services and give everyone a gov run half-ass healthcare. The good thing about my proposal is the tourists would chip in to pay. We would keep our current healthcare for the rich, no one else can afford it.

I would also go for a simplified flat tax. 15%, 25% and 35% for the mega rich. Nothing to do with socialism though.

 

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I would call myself a liberal in the european way, so I think people shouldnt be financed by the state while doing nothing, but the state should enable people to succeed in their lives.
Like I said before I really like the idea of a Basic income for everyone. My idea is that it would be just a little bit more for you than to not to starve of freeze to death. So it should be around 300$ but differ from from state to state and country ro country. It would surely be able to reduce burocracy cost, and especilly people with a low income job would profit. It would be very likely better than the german system where people without work get so called Arbeitslosengeld 2 (unemployment benefit 2) which everyone can get who is without work and bigger amounts of wealth. Some people already get this or the former version already for decades. In the moment its 409 Euro for a single adult (432,61 US Dollars) and theyget paid a flat up to a certain price or size and also the heating. That pretty much sums up to more then 800$. But still many people and politicians say its not enough. And if you have a low income job and/or a larger family you still can get money from the state, but you will only earn a bit more than the workless people sitting home doing nothing all day. So it just doesnt make sense for them to work at a low income because they would only get just a little bit more than if they dont. With a (low) basic income they could and would take even jobs badly payed.
I also do think that every citizen with enough intellectual properties should be able to go to college indenpendently from their financial situation. This could be done by completely free college or cheap subsidized study loans.
With the tax issiue i think france did go too far with their 70% rich tax. I think there should be a higher tax percentage for the very rich and no tax at all to the people with low income. Also a vat and some extra taxes for luxury products can give the money the state needs.

 

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I think thats a pretty good concept, but i would free the low incomes from taxes, it reduces burecracy and it wouldnt bring very much anyway. The Us healcare system is very costly also compared too european healthcare systems. So I think there should be a very basic (and cheap) health insurance for everyone and better health care for richer people.

 

The wealthy pay plenty taxes and yet somehow they keep accumulating a larger and larger share of the nations wealth. Can you explain how that happens?

 

You seem confused, by conflating Wealth with Income. Wealth doesn't necessarily equate to Cash. And don't worry since Baby Boomers who control 45% of the Wealth in the US are about to pass on $30 TRILLION in Wealth via inheritance.

 

Maybe we can tell the corporations and the extremely wealthy that if they move their companies out of the States, they will never be able to sell the products that they make overseas back into the US market.

 

If you were participating in making those decisions, is that what you would advocate? Do you think those with you making the same decisions with you would get away with advocating that? Do you think they would want to and risk damaging or destroying their own society?

I didn't think so. Welcome to socialism.

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YOU don't understand it. Sp you posit these ridiculous situations and the "consequences" as you walk away patting yourself on your back for being so "smart".

 

Not at all. I just take a look at Venezuela and wonder how anyone could be stupid enough to think socialism is a good thing.

 

Gosh, do you really think it would be utopia? I don't but I may be wrong! Please share your insights so we can appreciate the possibility of it being a utopia!

Great! The problem is what they do to us with their wealth and its power. Let them leave, and BTW when they go they don't get to take their factories, equipment, or assets withy them. They get their clothes on their back, and enough to get them where they go, and we will be free of their damaging influences and we can run things better in their absence!

With the significantly lower costs for doing everything and the more efficiently run economy, we will all pay our taxes and highly successful co-ops will chip in much more to pay for needs. The idea that we cannot solve such issues without the parasitic rich sucking our blood is idiotic. We will do fine, –in fact, better!

 

Government is at fiction wherein everyone can live off of everyone else.

 

The Republicans need to figure out who they're going to tax to pay for all of Trump's programs

 

Trump has a novel idea to increase tax revenues through economic growth. It's a concept that was completely outside the box for our previous Community Organizer and Chief, so it's something you've probably never been exposed to. You might actually like what you see over the next several years.

 

At least you aren't bashful about your communism. I guess you really can't take it with you.

btw: This kinda thing happened in Munster Germany when the anabaptists decided to go commie. They eventually told everybody in the city that they're either going to share their wealth, or they get to leave with nothing more than the clothes on their back.

It didn't end well for the anabaptists, to put it mildly...

This level of naivety reminds me of those Jehovah Witness watchtower tracts where they have pictures of children and lions and sheep all laying around on grass enjoying a beautiful pastel colored day.

 

Your post is a lie the reason our debt has gone down is because of economic growth you need to learn some facts dude

 

A novel idea? Didn't reagan try that one?

 

The US economy has grown three and a half trillion dollars while Obama was President so here's more information on how much of a lie your post is

 

How many trillions did the national debt go up during the same time period?

 

They will start with the 1% and when they are done sucked them dry they will lower the bar to the 5% and suck them dry and then they will feed off the 25% until they wither. They will continue to import cheap labor to offset the waning availability of wealthy and eventually turn on one another and then once they have been eaten by each other God will once again bless this world with prosperity, then again I may be overthinking it too!

 

Congress controls the purse strings. The gop congress

 

There will always be a 1% so they won't need to lower the bar. It will be lowered merely by feasting on the richest, until all that is left is a 1% of poor living uncomfortably with the destitute majority.

The cheap labor tactic has it's roots in the decline of the Roman empire when Rome allowed refugee Goths requesting asylum from the huns to enter the city. They gave the initial benefit of allowing the Emperor to recruit soldiers from their ranks, as well as boosting tax revenue. Unfortunately, what happened is that this placed far too much pressure on the resources available to the city, and the goths started to starve. Things were so bad that they were selling their children to romans for a dog per child, just so that they could eat. Of course, this resulted in a bit of anger because the Romans were the last to starve and the Goths were the first to starve.

It's quite an interesting story, and has a lot of relevance to what is currently happening in Europe, and the United States. There are so many similarities that it's as if this is being orchestrated by some very devious minds.

 

republicans are in charge.... but I would prefer a flat tax

one that taxes everyone the same for every dollar earned over the poverty limit. rich or poor... all income treated as income

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The rate of increase in our debt has decreased (gone down). Obama still managed to add 10 Trillion to the total debt during his two terms. He grossly outspend the very anemic economic growth we experienced. A simple economics course will help you learn this and other important concepts, dude....

The Reagan years pre-dated most of the posters here. They won't get the significance of what happened then.

 

That doesn't matter when talking about the economy expanding. If your wife's shoe collection starts growing at an Imelda Marcosian manner, does it matter if you are putting the purchase of her shoes on a credit card, or if she is the one shopping til she drops? You still owe the money no matter who is doing the shopping.

And believe me, the rank and file republicans are trying to reign in Congressional spending. They're just having a bit of a hard time telling the difference between fiscal conservatives and bald faced liars. Trump lied to the people who voted for him, as did every republican congress person except Rand Paul.

It's like you can't win with washington. They just lie right to your face when they are trying to get elected, and then once in Washington, it's bring on the debt. At least Democrats don't have to deal with that. Their elected politicians run on spending sprees, and by gum, they deliver!

 

so how come the rich haven't left New York City?

they LOVE it here!!

 

Then get comfortable with losing/ LOL