1957 vs 2017 Are things better?

Everything was much better in the 50s. It was real.

 

Whippersnapper is an interesting word. What does it mean? I had it used on me a time or two.

You, you young whippersnappers don't know a thing."

 

Things are made better.


I miss my 78 Cordoba muscle car complete with mag wheels and air shocks, cruising Woodward.



But my Toyota is way better made, American cars are inferior to Japanese cars in every category.







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If you were white, times were good in 57. If you weren't, not so good. Sorry but everything changed as we added another 150 million people. The more people, the more rules. Now I do blame us boomers for being bigger jerks than our parents, we cannot hide from that at all. Our parents had good hearts and just wanted a house, a car, a camping vacation and a steady job. During the Reagan era, we gave up those dreams to become rich ********s. Most of us did not make it but we substituted our reality for the worship of greed, hate, wealth and materialism all in the name of what exactly? Our parents were proud to pay taxes, they loved what America had become and as every dam, every bridge or highway or school or airport was built, they knew it was good. They paid their taxes. They were our guides. We rebelled and then became greedy selfish pricks.

 

The only good thing, is blacks have it much better today, but that is the only positive thing.

Civilization will decline, and ours has, caused by an insanity we never had to deal with in the past. We have never lost basic common sense, but indeed that is what has happened. The fault lies with the faux liberals, who hardly have the common sense to stay away from lone oak trees in a field during a thunder storm. This is what they have created via a gov't which now intercedes into the lives of its people. Gov't should run quietly in the background, but today unlike 1957, you feel its overbearing presence. This is what faux liberals have given us.

So, we are in decline, a decline caused by idiocy. By people that if not for laws protecting us from ourselves, Darwin would have buried them long ago.

 

Korea was mismanaged by Truman and Ike as well.

Our Generals knew very well how to win wars. They spent their adult life as students of war.

General William E. Depuy had pioneered a new way to win wars and he was a Lt. General in Vietnam. He was alleged to have fired more officers as a commander than any other General had. Talk about Patton. DePuy was a genius of war.

But who heard of the man? He commanded my unit in Germany just prior to me arriving and the men talked of him like he was the Messiah. DePuy was built for combat.

Had DePuy been the top General over Vietnam and not blocked by the president, he would have won that war in a few months flat. Maybe weeks.

Forget the Colin Powell doctrine, that was simply the DePuy doctrine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_E._DePuy

http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/070/70-23/CMH_Pub_70-23.pdf

 

Speak for yourself. Worship of greed, hate, wealth and materialism weren't invented in the 20th century...see the world is older than that and those things have always been around....

I'm a boomer and spent my life working hard, paying my bills and my taxes.....to lump every one in one generation and then saying how they were all bad is stupid.

 

There were many U.S. Marines in the Nam knew who Gen. DePuy was.

It was the National Security Act of 1947 that gave civilian politicians to much control over the military. It's when civilians started micromanaging the military during war time and America stopped winning wars on thew battlefield.

 

That's as true for you as it is for me. Everything I had back in the day is now considered highly desirable. My levis that were made in san francisco to my converse all stars, to my comic books, to my old fairlane.

My daughter is now 26 and pretty much everything she has ever owned is now just rubbish. She does, however, own some converse all stars made in china, and wear jeans that were made in china, and her bicycle from back when she was in high school is rubbish...

My schwinn sting ray that I rode when I was in elementary school is now considered a highly valuable collectors piece.

Kids today just don't realize how crappy things are.

 

You are aware that the "boomers" didn't come into political power until the 1990's.

Just like the "greatest generation" didn't come into political power until the 1960's.

Do you want to be around when the millennial snowflakes gain political power ?

President Trump will be the last "boomer" President.

The "boomers" will move out of the way and allow Generation "X" and "Z" to run things for awhile and lets hope we can return to living the "Life of Reilly", "Ozzie and Harriet," "Father Knows Best", "Leave it to Beaver" and a little of "Dennis the Menace" era that were the best of times for America.

Even black children back then just not knew who their father was but also had a father in the home.

FYI:
If Donald Trump were have been born 18 months earlier he wouldn't have been a boomer but one of the luckiest generation.

 

More than that, the US had just been through two interventionist world wars, 30 years of Progressive Era politics, 90% tax rates, etc. It was no golden age.

But the ratchet effect of course dictates that more was in control of individuals, parents, companies than government as you go back further in time. That is what conservatives refer to when they speak of the 1950s.

 

Back before globalization, Americans demanded quality not cheap stuff.

Levis, you had to wear and wash a pair of Levis about six times before they were broken in. Today a pair of Levis last you about six washes.

It would be safe to say anyone born after 1980 doesn't remember or know what quality is.

 

That list applies to the 80s as
well. From personal experience...

1983. Bunch of kids play outside all summer. Eat lunch at whoever's house we were hanging out at. Moms were home. Parents don't see or hear from us for 8 hrs until it's time to eat dinner. Dog sent out to find us and brings us home.

2017. Everyone goes to camp since every parent is at work with no one home to watch kids. Kids don't leave parents sight for 2 seconds because they're all nuts and paranoid. Amber alert sounded if kid disappears for more than 5 minutes. Dog without leash reported to authorities or neighbor calls the cops on you for animal abuse or child endangerment.

Yes. It was a different time.


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To bring you up to date on that old Packard.

At the time I traded it in, they gave me $650. This was a trick so it counted as a large down payment. I had only recently graduated high school and then credit was hard to get. I had to go to a finance company that was double or triple bank rates. My parents qualified for the low bank rates. Mom worked hard to stop me from going so deep in debt. I bought the Bel Aire and had to make it into a hot rod. Not happy with the two colors, I had a paint artist do some customizing on it and give it a custom paint job. But the Packard literally ate gasoline. I mean it got maybe 5 mpg. The Chevy got up to 27 mpg. As a hot rod, it never came close to what it got stock.

But those were the days my friend.

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Pretty mush the case.I've been pleading almost the same stuff.
Another bellwether,indisputable example is the TV shows form
the 50's.
- Father Knows Best - { 1954 }
- Leave it to Beaver - { 1957 }
- Ozzie and Harriet - { 1952 }
- The Donna Reed Show - {1958}
Plus the real kicker.
- Disney's Wonderful World of Color - { 1954 - ? }
This was the crown jewel of Family TV watching.It was wonderful and
Informative and very Pro-America and Americana.
Someone like Walt Disney would not be accepted in Hollywood Today.
It was said of Mr.Disney he was more popular than any President.
No one at that time doubted it.
The Left spent 5 decades doing everything within their Liberal power
to fracture Americana.The very things Walt Disney tirelessly built up and nurtured.
There obviously will never again be another Walt Disney.
But to have grown-up within his Vision is something to hold onto
all the days of me life.Ta hell with the Left and their rotten Identity Politics
and Political Correctness.Mores like Political Marxism.
Real Americans aren't fooled.

 

My Company Commander worked for General Depuy. The last time I talked to him, he retired from the Army as a Lt. Col, told me he was not directly under DePuy in Vietnam but was so respectful of him. Guys I served with knew him well and told me stories that are hard to believe. Like when DePuy was a Col. and saw a grunt strugglign to dig a fox hole. Depuy kneels down and takes the shovel and shows him how to dig one. He had a super reputation Army wide as a Col when he served in Germany. An amazing officer.

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Yes and you are entirely, 100 percent correct.

 

Crime is down, poverty is down, life expectancy is up...

The world is always getting better.

 

Who recalls Frisco Jeans? I wore out many a pair. Who drank Anchor Steam Beer? A very good beer should you get the chance. https://www.anchorbrewing.com/beer/anchor_steam

Jeans were made a few miles from me. Schwinn was considered a very good bike.

 

I would occasionally purchase a sixer of Anchor Steam Beer during the 70's.

 

I grew up in the San Francisco East Bay side of the bay area. I did live for several years on a patch of dirt, 4 acres in size and it was no picnic living there. The school building had 2 rooms as I recall. I was in the room with the youngest kids.

When I returned to Oakland, CA it was vastly different than today. Oakland does have a few decent areas. Back then the city was homogenized. (homogenized is the first more difficult word I spelled well before entering the first grade in 1943)

Both in Roseville, Ca ... a farming community and in Oakland where the thing done was support the war, I did not meet any blacks. I never met a mexican until I was in the 6th grade. I did not know any who had non white skin. We were a happy lot. We did not think or discuss race. The same place in Oakland i once lived must have either blacks there or Mexicans.

Mom divorced and it meant splitting the family up. I moved miles distant into the San Joaquin valley to live with Mom's older brother and his family. Went to school daily with nary a shoe to my name. Walking on hot roads in 110 degree temps was normal. When mom married, she came to pick us up. We moved to a small town and the fact I never saw any blacks there. All the way into high school, never saw a black. Today that town is probably half black and very run down.

The first real black I got to know was in the Army and I was then 23 and freshly drafted. I and this black were appointed by the company commander to our jobs. I had the fake rank of Sgt E5 and my assistant, the black wore two stripes. We bunked in the same small room. The rest of the men were outside my door and in a large bay that held maybe 60 men. My memory is that in my platoon, I had Dave, my assistant, and 2 Eskimos. The rest were white. The platoon was exceptional and was rated best in the company. I hold pride over my platoon to this day. I met no blacks at the leadership academy. In Advanced trining, tyere were some of them. In Germany we also had a few.

Some of the white guys loved to taunt the blacks, but not to their faces. Talk of Bull Conner don't let him stop you was heard in the night. Blacks were more mistreated by Democrats of the South than even on the army base I was on in CA. In the South I saw a lot more prejudices. I was not prejudiced but the blacks I had hung with a few times were scared out of their minds to be caught with me in their car downtown Columbus, GA. They really got scared.

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How well did you like it compared say to Budweiser or Burgemeister? Is Burgemeister still a beer?

 

Did you copy this load of cute horse crap from somewhere? I ask because you compare 1957 to 2014 even though this is 2017. So this must have been floating around the Internets fir a while now.

 

I guess it is like "you punk"--a presumptuous youngin of some sort or the other. It is just a phrase I see every now and then.

 

You can't possibly be serious.Just watch TV today and all the Court TV shows.
Half of the litlgants have been arrested and done bad things { Domestic abuse }
There was No Porn in the 50's.
Very few Tattoo parlors.No adult male in my neighborhood had a tattoo.
Abortion was considered an evil like in the Steve McQueen/Natalie Wood movie :
- Love With the Proper Stranger - { 1963 }.
No such thing as Serial killers in the 50's.
Virtually every Kid dreamed of being a Boy Scout.Playing Little League.
Maybe taking up a musical Instrument.
Todays Kids want Tattoos and constant Fast Food and trying out drugs.
Being Bullies in the making on the Internet.
Todays' kids do not Respect their elders.Or their teachers.No kid in the
50's ever got away with that crap.
Plus Kids had paper routes and did odds and ends to have a little spending
money.Like Cutting lawns or raking leaves.Washing the car.Shovelling snow.
Cleaning out the Garage.
Barack Obama never as much as had a part time job growing up.
I Rest me case.

 

My family had none of that, except the smoking.

 

Good for you if it's true
But that's referring to the nation not your family