George Soros, Islam and LGBT

Saudi Arabia exports food to the US and Japan.. They have a million acres under lease in East Africa which locals farm so its a blessing to their labor pool. KSA also has the largest dairy farm in the world.

 

The US doesn't have the world's most powerful military, it just has air-superiority. You cannot win a war with air-superiority alone. And our military cost money to operate, if the US cannot afford fuel because it limited its suppliers on the international markets and thus ends up in a fuel shortage (or worse, lands us in another depression) our military gets cut back. All those new ships that Trump plans to build to expand our Navy get put on hold. The war in Iraq was supposed to pay for itself with 20 years of oil credits, then we met ISIS, and now you want to take on Saudi Arabia just because you think we can beat 'em? Have you ever heard the term "pyrrhic victory"?

 

Need to ask those Black Americans doing the overwhelming majority of the shooting of black people.

 

Saudi Arabia is our oldest and staunchest ally in the region and have been steadfast regardless of who was in office.

We aren't thieves and killers. The notion of stealing their oil is beyond stupid. Everyone knows the oil business HATES a war zone. Look at what happened in Iraq.. and now Syria's pitiful little oil business in defunct as is Yemen's small oil business.

 

We admit no more persons to this country that believe in whipping women for being raped.

 

Excuse my ignorance but what is KSA? If nobody needs Saudi oil their cash flow will be decimated and they can keep their terrorism to themselves.

 

KSA has aggressively fought terrorism since the bombing of the Khobar Towers.

Europe and China and Southeast Asia still need Saudi oil.

Remember the Marshall Plan? Remember Vietnam? Saudi oil from Ghawar was vital to both.

 

So we can impose our will in the name of christianity?

 

No, just a christian.

 

They fight terrorism only to preserve the royal family. Then they sponsor jihadist Islam all over the world. What does the Marshall plan and Vietnam have to do with anything?

 

No, I am saying that your definition of "radical left wing groups" is a subjective assessment not necessarily rooted in reality, but is most definitely a partisan trope.

It is a well known fact that really rich people attempt to influence politics to their benefit. You know like your President and the Kochs Bros, and Adelmann, and tillerson and the rest of the them. Right/left/up/down/honest/corrupt/sincere/liars - its a dog's breakfast of competing chequebooks and ideologies.

Funny how its always the other side that is doing this, when in truth its all sides.

 

Yep its beyond my understanding. But it seems your explanation provides a compelling strategic reason to move quickly to alternative energy sources.

BTW, the US is the third leading supplier of crude. Both Russia and Saudi Arabia topped US production in 2016.

As to the global commodity market, yes, the price is determined by supply and demand and OPEC can adjust production to effect pricing, although not to the same extent as in the 80's. Today, OPEC accounts for roughly 35% of the world's oil production down from close to 50% in 1980. While still the most influential price fixing organization, its influence is steadily diminishing in terms of overall effect.

 

yep. they're everywhere, just like Chickenman.

 

The very worst people are those that use people with good motives to achieve evil ends.

 

What do you mean? WRT Soros.

 

There are three fundamental stages of crude production; first it is extracted from a reserve, then it is refined, and finally it is shipped to gas stations for private consumers. It can be purchased at anytime during these three stages and each of these three stages are separate industries inside of the main overall industry. I'm not suggestion that you don't already know this, I'm just pointing out that the price goes up depending on how far along this process the product has moved. We do have a large refining industry of our own but our refining industry makes money by remaining open to foreign companies, not just US consumers. So US acquisition of foreign oil before it is refined is not necessarily going to be refined in the US and then shipped to US gas stations. Oil is shipped back and forth (regardless of who owns it) several times from one nation to another as it goes from stage one to stage three. Depending on current supply and demand, oil that has been purchased might again be resold (over and over), because having all our tanks full of inventory (as we're waiting for demand to catch up or waiting times in refinery lines) prevents us from using those full tanker (sitting at anchor) from emptying their cargo to get the next load (don't forget, that shipping is an industry as well). Meanwhile, untapped oil deposits remain sitting there until they are depleted. And Saudi and Iran have the largest oil reserves in the world despite how much they sell every year. It is easy to sit them in the time-out box our try to out-sell them, but in doing so you're really only depleting your own nations natural resources while they're retaining theirs. Once you have depleted your oil reserves, the next seller can set their own price. The US would never win at this game. While all the US oil tycoons would make out like bandits (for a time) eventually the US must buy oil (that it can no longer compete for) from someone else at that person's mercy. While we're sitting here with empty gas stations oil-embargoed nations that aren't allowed to sell their oil on the International Markets have and endless supply for their gas stations. So much so that their citizens can fill their vehicles practically for free (the way Iran was doing it).
Do you know what happens in the US when we have a gas shortage? People cannot get to work, food cannot get to the grocery store shelves, everything shuts down. We lose our ability to fight anyone because our economy collapses. And not one citizen will be cheering on the government about how they bullied the Saudis, which resulted in the US becoming a stagnate nation. Sure we have reserves, some argue ten years worth, others argue 15 years worth (depending on how we ration), but the government gets first dibs on that because they have to maintain order in the streets full of angry starving rioters. The bottom-line is that the US would never do something as reckless as cutting off Saudi Arabia, simply because we don't agree with how they run their nation. Just as Saudi Arabia would never cut off the US simply because they don't like the way we run our nation.

 

Yes. He recruits idealistic people through his NGOs but then orchestrates the NGOs in such a way that they contribute to political instability. Then he gets operatives from the US government and elsewhere to catalyze it all with a final trigger event or two. I believe he was responsible for what happened in the Ukraine...he's right in there with the others now for his cut, and so is Monsanto.

https://www.infowars.com/soros-admits-responsibility-for-coup-and-mass-murder-in-ukraine/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/geor...erts-attention-when-asked-about-george-soros/

 

Infor wars? Ok. Thanks, have a nice day.

 

Why am I not surprised that your scores in reading comprehension aren't good enough? It's obvious that you don't understand the difference between a cherry picking and the main idea.

A private citizen literally buying judges loyalties and influence within the judicial system is unacceptable and wrong on so many levels. It appears that you approve of banana republic practices if that could advance your personal hidden agenda.

 

That's only one of many listed resources.

 

I am familiar with the implications of a gas shortage. OTOH, a gas shortage would dig into strategic reserves but considering the US would only experience about a 10% overall production shortfall from saudi oil, while maximum daily output from the reserve could provide roughly 20% of daily requirements for 6 months of normal consumption.

OTOH, you assume a continuation of the House of Saud and its exportation of a militant form of Islam. I assume that any actions taken would ultimately result in a change of regime in Saudi Arabia.

Interesting conclusion you arrive at. I guess when fighting a war against terrorism, or as donnie and the gang say, violent extreme Islamic terrorists, its not a good idea to attack the source. Better to just pick off the ones you can, while you can, and let the Saudi clergy keep preaching their message of hatred, violent jihad, and repressive social mores to the great "unwashed masses" of Islam.

almost makes one wonder if everyone is truly serious about eliminating terrorism, or if they are more interested in exploiting the fear and paranoia it generates amongst their populations.

 

Sounds like you'd have loved Silvio Berlusconi, taking over Italian media and silencing opposition. And of course Putin... we know how much Trump voters love him. He doesn't just take over the media, he poisons dissenting journalists. Wow, Amy Goodman poisoned... that's a Trump-voting wet dream!

How DARE the Left have access to the media, right?

I find it frankly alarming that so many GOP voters express such consistent disdain for Free Speech and even democracy. If they were hauling off Obama & Hillary voters to camps MANY Trump voters would applaud if not assist.

 

Amen.

Of course when we start to investigate this issue, we find that corporate power is standing in lockstep with the Saudi royals. Try getting any renewal-energy legislation passed in the current Congress or signed by the current President. No, their corporate masters will not allow it.

 

It would be comical if all this disinformation and paranoia weren't threatening democracy...

The magical and powerful giant George Soros, conspiring with Barack Obama and Saul Alinsky to destroy civilization, which will involve Hillary's lesbian army taking our guns while our children are forced to share a bathroom stall with transgenders while chanting verses from the Koran. Yes, those devious liberals are really screwing us up.

Well, that's amusing, but it's distracting people from the very real problems of melting icecaps, fading medical care access, jobs disappearing into foreign sweatshops, the middle class on the ropes...

Oh sorry, there was that Moslem Communist Terrorist brainwashing kicking in again!!! I forgot, the real threat to the U$A is Mexican lettuce pickers and gay rights and an increased minimum wage! Oh the oppression! Healthcare for everyone! OMG worse than Nazi Germany!!!

Help us, Koch Brothers!!! Save us from Michelle Obama's broccoli!!!

 

"A militant form of Islam"? What is the US a militant form of? And then you assume, oh how hopefully you assume, a more moderate (kneeling) regime would take hold. I'm not even sure you know what a war against terrorism is. Are the terrorist limited to just people you feel are the enemy? You preach phrases like "violent-extreme-Islamic-terrorists" as if there are no others. Are you willing to purge your nation?