FISA Warrant is Proof Obama Tapped Trump

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  1. SovereignOne

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    I don't know that Comey would necessarily be privy to everything the Justice Department did.
     
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    Christopher Steele (former officer in MI-6) was gathering unfavorable info about Trump initially for the Republican 'never Trumpers' and then later the Democrats. His dossier contained allegations that have never been proven. The FBI paid him (thinking he was credible) to look into Trump's 'Russian ties.'


    Steele had been zealously working to blow up Trump’s candidacy. Such was his anti-Trump fervor that he furnished his late-hit services to the Democrats for free. According to a story planted in the United Kingdom’s Independent, “at the end he was working without pay.”

    Written in a style designed to flatter its source, the story said that a deeply worried Steele was shoveling his phony intelligence to John Brennan and British spies, as well as trying to prod FBI director James Comey into accelerating his investigation into Trump (the same investigation that the American press now pretends never happened):

    https://spectator.org/how-john-brennan-and-some-brits-tried-to-tip-the-election-to-hillary/

    They were investigating Trump based on a fake dossier.

    The Democrat party has been infested with far-left kooks who will even break the law to get and retain their political power. We The People realize this now and await some house cleaning and/or swamp draining.
     
  3. HereWeGoAgain

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    Not according to Trump. He says it was GCHQ. But they call that rubbish. Someone should tell Trump to coordinate his lies with his crackpot media megaphones.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/16/gchq-denies-wiretap-claim-trump-obama
     
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  4. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Justice Department maybe. Without his knowledge and blessings, do you think?
    The proof is in the pudding -- how could communication from Trump's server be published on Reddit without surveillance?
     
  5. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're mincing words. Trump called it a wire-tap but it certainly was server surveillance. How else could Reddit have obtained information to publish?
    Really, you're not saying it was clairvoyance! Or, perhaps you're accusing Obama of illegal surveillance?
     
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  6. Vegas giants

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    Yeah the Senate Intelligence committee does not know what they are talking about when they say there is no evidence. LOL
     
  7. fifthofnovember

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    Soooo, how would intelligence agencies know if Trump was being monitored...unless they were monitoring him? Second, intelligence agencies are notorious liars. James Clapper got up in front of Congress and lied -under oath- about, you guessed it, domestic spying (yet Obama never fired him, which means Obama was down with that kind of behavior). So, if any one of those 17 agencies (or anyone else) was illegally wiretapping Trump, they sure as hell aren't going to admit it.
     
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  8. Vegas giants

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    Oh my god that is hilarious
     
  9. One Mind

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    If it is hilarious that after clapper lied to congress Obama kept him, I can see how your tribe could ignore Hillary lying about very a very important exposing classified info via her at home server to anyone who wanted to look.

    It seems the only thing Hillary supporters find serious is their hatred for the man who beat her? When Flynn lied to the VP, trump fired his arse. So funny, right? ha ha ha.
     
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  10. Sharpie

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    The FBI also said there was no Russian Connection but I don't notice you posting that fact.
    Since that time, it has been discovered that a malicious player in the United States was the responsible party. The whole thing was a spoof - except - confidential conversations were leaked. So... spoof + felony. Circa reported Tuesday that one of the scientists who raised media concerns about the Trump-Russia connections was L. Jean Camp, an Indiana University researcher who made 22 donations totaling more than $1,500 to Hillary Clinton last year. She told Circa that her political donations had no bearing on her concerns about the data gathered by a loose group of colleagues who legitimately believed the connections should be investigated.
     
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  11. fifthofnovember

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    Hmm, interesting. I hadn't heard that.
     
  12. Zorro

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    Mmmm... it looks like your prayers for more transparency on the FISA warrants that Obama and the Spy Agencies used to spy on his political rival are being granted!

    Byron York has seen the memo,
    and reports its key findings.


    It's pretty good.

    * The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the initial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.
    * Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

    * The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

    * DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

    Tom Fitton @TomFitton
    Crisis of confidence: @JudicialWatch uncovered docs showing Mueller #2 Clinton supporter Andrew Weissman is anti-@RealDonaldTrump partisan who supported lawlessness against the President. Shut it down!

    Keep your eyes open for other stuff about Weismann too.
    [​IMG]Byron York

    ✔@ByronYork


    House Intel memo key point: The FBI's Andrew McCabe confirmed to the committee that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information. Story posting soon.

    8:49 AM - Feb 2, 2018
    [​IMG]Byron York

    ✔@ByronYork


    More House Intel memo key point: DOJ official Bruce Ohr relayed information about Christopher Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president. http://ow.ly/FN1g30iaoEV

    8:54 AM - Feb 2, 2018
    [​IMG]
    House Intel memo released: What it says
    The House Intelligence Committee has released its controversial memo outlining alleged abuses of secret surveillance by the FBI and Justi...

    washingtonexaminer.com

    [​IMG]Byron York

    ✔@ByronYork


    More House Intel memo key point: The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications. http://ow.ly/QCag30iaosG

    8:52 AM - Feb 2, 2018
    [​IMG]
    House Intel memo released: What it says
    The House Intelligence Committee has released its controversial memo outlining alleged abuses of secret surveillance by the FBI and Justi...

    washingtonexaminer.com
     
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    We've seen that how many times now? Give it up already.
     
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    Just turn it over to a special prosecutor.
     
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    Andrew Weissmann: Robert Mueller's dirty cop

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller has a prosecutor who just can't stop getting into trouble for withholding evidence the way a dirty cop does.
     
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    Needless to say this alt right disinformation source is hopelessly biased with zero credibility.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-thinker/

     
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    Facts are either true, or they are not, regardless of the source:

    The leftwing Daily Beast:

    Weissmann built a reputation as a prosecutor willing to push the envelope – with disastrous results. He helmed the prosecution of Arthur Andersen, Enron’s accounting firm, arguing that it had obstructed justice by destroying documents investigators would have needed.

    Weissmann and his team took the aggressive step of indicting the entire accounting firm. According to a source familiar with the case, the firm’s defense attorneys met with them [and asked Weissmann and his team] not to do so before the indictment, arguing that the firm would be certain to dissolve if it were indicted, leaving thousands of people jobless.

    “Their response indicated they didn’t care,” said the person familiar with the case.

    Twenty thousand people lost their jobs over a junk case that was thrown out of court and this guy didn't care? Weissmann has a history of dirty-cop tactics in his bid to make headlines, and it's particularly relevant in the current case with Robert Mueller since it now involves withheld evidence, the evidence that the phony Steele dossier, paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign, and which the FBI knew was fake, was nevertheless the basis for a FISA warrant to spy on Trump advisor Carter Page, and with it, the entire Trump team, as Team Obama went wild with the unmaskings.

    I'm sure you agree that it's time some of these dirty prosecutors were indicted charged tried and sentenced.
     
  18. Kode

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    It is now clear that any wiretapping of trump prior to the election was an insightful and appropriate deed.
     
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    Actually, that's not clear at all. And that the FBI and DOJ had to lie and trick the FISA court to get their warrant shows how ridiculous your post is. It's drivel.

    It certainly is useful to note however that the left is all for Big Brother at the NSA spying on their political foes, just like in old Soviet bloc countries and banana republics. It really helps to define where the left wing in this country stands.
     
  20. Kode

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    So what's worse... -that the right is all for Russia?
     
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    The FISA warrant was originally issued on CARTER PAGE...in October

    Carter Page had left the Trump organization MONTHS prior to that.

    Someone ask the OP how that could have "tapped Trump's wires" when Page had nothing to do with Trump by that point??
     
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    What did they like about to trick the FISA courts?

    Remind me who is in control of Congress.

    The House Intel Committee is a joke chaired by a Trump lapdog willing to do anything to protect his master.

    Let's see the FISA applications. Trump could do that. The House could do that. But it will never happen. Instead we'll just get more of these bullshit Nunes fabrications that skirt the truth and pick and choose info to fit his narrative.
     
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    What? Am I supposed to debate you and your imagination? Please...:roll:
     
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    You know as well as I do.
    Please don't pretend and obstruct and derail the subject.

    Remind me who just spent two terms in the White House and did nothing about the problem but make it worse. Don't be so consciously binary...spying on the public is a non partisan pastime and there is much agreement between the parties on that.

    What fabrications?
     
  25. Kode

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    Debate? There's no debate on forums. There's just fighting to see who can land the final blow.
     

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