Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts

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  1. Sunsettommy

    Sunsettommy Well-Known Member

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    Agree that the Federal Government doesn't need to be involved in areas of American society,using tax money that many citizens would object to. That is why I bring it up, since we live under a massive budget deficit that needs to be pared down.

    The amount of lost federal funding is actually very small,around 1% for NPR and around 7% for PBS. I think NPR can do without it while PBS can get by with a smaller amount. If NPR and PBS are so important to many,it will get the needed support anyway,by the tax dollars admittedly small as it is, would go to places that are truly a function the government,such as better support for the National Park system.
     
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  2. Rosa Parks

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    Memorex's are all you have left to recall.

    Still cut.
     
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    And there are many people who object to the National Park System, so shouldn't we cut off funding to them as well?
     
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    Rich farmers and ranchers can stand on their own two feet without government subsidies...why do they feel they need extra rights and backing?
     
  5. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another subject for another thread but if you are saying NPR- PBS are just as bad as them I'd agree.
     
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    :) Can't answer....OK.

    Rich farmers and ranchers can stand on their own two feet without government subsidies...why do they feel they need extra rights and backing?


    No, I never posted public TV is as bad.....I showed you how America needs government to do something with the taxes Americans pay....and not just for stuff YOU want ...
     
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    You're cut, you're cut, and you're cut. The rest of you are on the team.

    Except for you and you. You're cut too.
     
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    Cut it all. There are a list of things that the Federal Government is required to fund (Article 1 sec. 8 ), everything else, should be done by individual States.
     
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    Quite right sir. Art is very important. It is an important part of what we call culture. It is in national interests to support artists given it is difficult to devote oneself to art and survive. Starving artists have always bee with us, and any help we collectively can give them is very desirable as well as intelligent. Wasn't that sculpture by Picasso in Milwaukee taxpayer financed? I remember seeing it long, long ago, on Wisconsin Ave, downtown, close to the lake. Anyways some of these conservatives are just not educated properly and that is the problem. It isn't like this is much money in the budget.

    In regards to NPR, etc, yeah, I would feel differently if these were objective news agencies, but over the years they have went into left wing bias and do not serve as an objective news outlet. Just left wing propaganda outlets which should not be financed by us. I stopped watching them long ago when they changed. They lost all credibility for us who want honest, objective journalism based upon journalistic principles and integrity. They have none of this. Which is why the dems want it. ha ha ha
     
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    The taxpayers funded a work of Picasso's before he was famous? Way back when he was a starving artist?
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You equated NPR and PBS with rich farmers and ranchers being subsidized and I agreed with you. Learn to take yes for an answer.
     
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    So, basically Trump is cutting off funding for establishments utilizing the First Amendment....

    Way to trample on rights of others.
     
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    Good art is just like good music, if it's good it doesn't need subsidized.
     
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    Don't recall the part of the first amendment that says free speech should be paid for by government.
     
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    In order to understand this you'll need to do some reading. The bottom line for me is PBS is an extraordinary network providing programs which commercial networks, channels etc. either can't or won't, due to some reason or other. From the best child programming to art, theater, music, science, history, documentaries and so on - it is extraordinary programming, all done without the resources of commercial broadcasting. There are reasons why film makers such as Ken Burns (simply the finest American documentary film producer ever) only debuts his films on PBS. Even the far right wing is involved with various foundations, corporations and people such as the Koch brothers sponsoring the airing of programs. In short, PBS provides extraordinary programming....the type of which the other commercial newtworks, channels etc. can't or won't provide. Millions upon millions watch PBS (95 million tune in each month)for good reasons........shows like NOVA, American Masters, Frontline, Independent Lens, Masterpiece Theater and on & on....link below for reading but there is tons of material online to consider.

    I don't think PBS will die without federal funding but it will be wounded terribly. The far right (Koch brothers not withstanding, LOL) wants the funding to end, the moderates on both right & left understand the significance of PBS and would not like to see the funding cut. I believe education and the arts are integral to the success and viability of a nation which is why the cutting of funding for the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities is so very wrong. Reagan almost killed these until he was persuaded by far right wing allies to not do this, for good reasons.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Public_Broadcasting
     
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    Public Broadcasting Station. If you ever pay attention to PBS, it will from time to time say its programs are made available by contributions from "Viewers Like You." So, the station in itself is not solely funded off federal funding.

    But yeah, anyone who contributes to the country through the arts shouldn't have the obligation to pay any respects toward Trump now. Not that they did in the first place, but this is simply just a nail in the coffin.
     
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    If the 'art' is good it will pay for itself.
     
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    Yet you think Faux News is fair and balanced, right? lol...

    You do not know how to use the past participle correctly. "they have went" is error. The correct phrase is, "they have gone".

    Did you vote for Trump? He also has a poor command of the language.
     
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    I'm all for you contributing to NPR and PBS, exercise your first amendment rights all you want.
     
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    I'm sure the millionaires and billionaires of business and Hollyweird could pick up the tab for PBS no problem.
     
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    Why should tax dollars go to NPR and PBS? Are the libz getting their spanx twisted over this?
     
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    FOX news isn't subsidized so your straw man is on fire.
     
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    This is clearly not true. This notion that the "market" is the final arbiter of all human culture is capitalist falderol.

    You think good art will pay for itself, lol, but that attitude is a formula for starving artists! The GOOD artists win grants, subsidies. If we turn them loose on the "market", we end up with the same situation as in 18th-century Europe, with all artists dependent on benefactors, who then shade the nature of the art produced. With govt assistance, there are no ideological demands placed on the artist.

    Art is by its nature avant-garde, and not always accessible to contemporary understanding. Art dependent on the market? We'd end up with nothing but big-eyed children with kittens, lol.
     
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    Are you enjoying spewing snark online which you would never say to people in public? Does that make you feel more powerful than you really are? All the negative and bigoted name-calling only reveals that I am RIGHT in asserting that most of the antisocial miscreant attitudes in politics are on the right side of the aisle.
     

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