1957 vs 2017 Are things better?

You know we boomers thought exactly the same way. We wrote songs about it:

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But it didn't turn out that way. Simply being in favor of equality isn't sufficient, especially when equality simply isn't true.

And what makes you think we will lose that proficiency?

And how did we get that proficiency in the first place, if not because white people are not smarter?

 

(*)(*)(*)(*) no, I don't read what I post.

I post either what I know (been there and done that) or have observed or have knowledge of .

The facts are why America no longer has a space shuttle and rely on Russians supporting the International Space Station is because President Obama told NASA that they were no longer in the space business but the liberal political correctness that Islam is good would be their agenda.

Barack Obama: Nasa must try to make Muslims 'feel good'

 

Also born in 1957, God, 60 this year! Grew up not far from you in Dundalk. We had our BB guns, some of us went hunting with our fathers. The big Eastfield 4th of July fireworks were right behind our house, fireworks weren't too hard to get and we'd scout around for the duds from the professional fireworks. Since my younger siblings liked to break my airplane and car models, I started putting firecrackers in them before gluing. Once they broke them I'd set them on fire and wait for the boom!

 

Pretty hard for him to move those jobs overseas when he doesn't own the companies. Have you ever had a real job?

 

People are different. have different needs, have different capabilities. Not only is equality not true, it's not possible without the use of massive amounts of force, which most people abhor.

 

I think we should bring that back for certain criminals/crimes.

 

All states made wife beating illegal by the 1920s.

 

They aren't all arrested and charged now. Nor are all speeders pulled over and given tickets. Selective prosecution has always been with us, and likely always will be.

 

9 years and 193,000 miles later, it still runs like a champ. Even still has the original belt and hoses, as well as spark plugs and wires. No rust. Just a few hail dents. One electrical issue (the burglar alarm goes off at times when you wouldn't think it would). Who knows. I might have it another 9 years. The few repairs I have had are usually cheaper than car payments.

 

Which has nothing to do with the post of mine you quoted, doesn't change one word of :Well somebody has been LYING but it wasn't me:

No, I NEVER POSTED, CLAIMED, IMPLIED OR SAID wife beating is less common today than it was 50 years ago and you say that with NO PROOF whatsoever!


I said it wasn't considered illegal in the "good old days" and NOW it is.....is that plain enough English for you?????




Your ignorance of the fact that wife beating was often ignored as being a man's right doesn't mean ALL wife beaters were arrested and charged.

 

Your anecdotal experience with reliability has no relevance to what I was talking about. It's the often wrong sentiment that you can save a pile of money buying a car 1 or 2 years old. Unless you buy something with terrible resale value, of course.

 

The silent generation, HS classes of 46-60, were not in any position to challenge the narrative of the WW2 generation or the Red Scare and Cold War rhetoric that comsumed the nation.

 

Three facts to remember from the 1950's

Income Tax Rate
The federal tax rate for income of $400,000 and over was 84.357% (that increased to 91% in the 1960's)

Labor
Per capita union membership peaked at 35% in the mid-1950's.

Republican Ideology
The Social Liberal Rockefeller Republicans dominated the Republican party.

 

Malibu Maxx wasn't really popular. Almost ugly even. But I sat in it and was comfortable so I bought.

 

I never said they were ever "all arrested and charged". I said they WEREN'T. You should read my post again.

If it was on the books, but seldom enforced, that is "selective enforcement", just as I described.

 

Brutal choice for resale value. If you're happy with it, enjoy.

 

So why don't you think the '50s are better than the teens?

 

I don't sell cars until they are nearly all used up. So far I like it. Repairs cheaper than car payments.

 

You have not touched a school since 1957 and you expect us to believe you know what is really going on??

 

Blacks were officially segregated from white society. The KKK was still lynching and murdering blacks with impunity because the local police, prosecutors, members of the jury, and judges were either official members of the KKK or were simple adherents of their White Supremacy ideology.

Jim Crow voting laws (i.e. voting laws that don't mention race but are based upon demographic information about blacks to disenfranchise them - Like the Voter ID Laws today) combined with violence prevented blacks from voting.

Women, while proving their equality in the work force during WW II, were returned to their traditional "Christian" role of "barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen" by male supremacy society.

Christianity by "majority vote" replaced the ideology of America expressed by the original Motto of the United States, E PLURIBUS UNIM (From many, one) that was inclusive of all Americans to the religions motto of "In God We Trust" that divided Americans into the preferred "Christians" and the disparage "Atheists" effectively kicking Thomas Jefferson and other founders that didn't believe in any religious god right in the nuts. The Christians changed America from being "One Nation under the Constitution" to "One Nation Under God" or for those of us with a sense of humor "One Nation Under the Tooth Fairy" but in any case it was basically the book-burning of the Constitution that apparently no longer matter to them.

We were rapidly destroying the environment and driving species towards extinction. The "Protestant" ethic was that man not only had the God-given right to exploit nature but a mandate to destroy nature anytime a dollar could be made from the destruction.

There were certainly good parts and bad parts but today the GOP and Trump Agenda is to return us to the bad parts.

For example after WW II waterboarding was an act of torture and we sent people to prison for it but for many in the GOP it was completely acceptable to waterboard non-Christian brown people by the Bush Administration. Our current President expressed his willingness to waterboard "non-Christian brown people" when he was a candidate.

Instead of restoring the power of unions where they have the economic power to overcome the downward pressure on compensation by the market the GOP continues to wage a war of genocide against organized labor. Only 6% of the private workforce now belongs to unions and the GOP won't be happy until the unions are finally non-existent. The "market" has drive the "price for labor" (compensation( below the "cost for labor" (cost of living for the household) that the worker must fund and that's forced us into a welfare state because capitalism cannot survive when the "price" is below the "cost" so under-compensation must be subsidized with government welfare assistance or our economy collapses. Republicans only give lip service to the problem because they refuse to collect the taxes necessary to fund the expenditure anyway.

We started to save the environment and one of the first acts of the new Republican Administration was to gut environmental laws and the current budget proposal is to cut funding for the EPA by a third.

We can't "Make America Great" by doing everything that Made America Bad" in the past.

 

And now Blacks are unofficially segregated. I saw one claim that schools are more segregated now than before Brown. And now the police themselves are murdering Blacks. A larger percentage of the Black population is incarcerated and they make up a larger percentage of the incarcerated population than they did in the 1950's

And women were happier then. Or at least we know that women were happier in the 1970's than they are today. As feminism prevailed, women became less happy. And most every child, both Black and White, were in intact two-parent families.

People were happier in the 1950's. White men were happier. White women were happier. Who knows about Black people, but they sure don't seem very happy these days. There weren't very many Mexicans at all. Now they are here and they are unhappy. Economic inequality has grown, under both Republican and Democratic administrations.

Sure, nowadays their is lots of gnashing of teeth and rending of garments about social justice issues, but that is all that Progressives can point to as an improvement. It doesn't seem as if all this angst has made anyone happier.

Just the opposite in fact.

 

Good point. I am not the author but realize since I did not disclose that, I shall get the blame.

Primarily posted to offer a bit of humor. Some to disclose our era of around 1957. I was then out of high school by a year.

I have however been bombarded by Democrats thinking processes since around 1995 when I joined forums on the internet. There is little to distinguish one Democrat from the next one that posts. Rarely have I seen two of them engage in arguments with each other.

But wait, I spent many years as a then loyal Democrat. I don't often say left or right because those are not political parties but ideology. Conservative or Liberal is too often misused for me to do the same thing, so I stick to known political parties the best i am able.

 

This is also what I noticed.

They talk of Jim Crow. I was in the South my first time in 1962. I believe I would have easily seen proof of them. I was at Ft. Benning and did a small bit of travel into South Carolina. I did encounter a white man on the border of the two states where he heard me talking and asked me "Where are you from, you damned Yankee!" Well, I says, I am from CA if it is any of your damned business!! The guy who gave me the ride and was at the table with me as we ate breakfast was a bit amused. Been a long time ago but I think he was from Florida.

Out in CA, I went weeks and never saw a black person. Sometimes it was months. We had no jim crow laws.

We see a lot more blacks living with blacks today out here than we saw back in the 1950s.

Having sold property for many decades, over 4 in fact, my personal experience is that in 45 odd years, I have sold 6 homes to blacks. Rich informed me he did not want to live with blacks but did not want to live with prejudiced whites either. His brother that played for the Washington Redskins did not mention that but lived in the same area as his brother Rick did. I sold Dave the 1 home and sold it for him. I sold 2 homes to Rick his brother and sold 1 for him.

Lemma and his relative Basilios came to America from Ethiopia. I sold 1 home for Lemma and sold Basilios his condominium. Basilios related knowing the former Emperor Haile Selassie since his father worked for the Emperor.

Early on, I sold to a black Nuclear physicist his home and later sold it for him when he moved back to one of the Carolinas where he worked for GE.

Oh I sold to a black sailor on the aircraft Carrier Enterprise his home.

 

I was 10 in 1957

1957 - we were taught to "duck and cover" - get under our desks and cover our heads with our arms in the event of a nuclear attack
2017 - we will have to restart those drills, since our so-called president seems to think nuclear weapons are a good thing and should be used more often, and he wants more of them.

1957 - Eisenhower orders troops into Little Rock, Ark., to allow black students to attend school and end segregation
2017 - A bimbo is put in charge of education who wants private schools where segregation would be legal

 

You know very well some of that is not true.

This president is sick of the way the past president participated in the decline of this nations military. Now, had the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans gave up theirs, we could do the same. India nor Pakistan present a threat to the USA.

Nuke weapons, used as weapons were used 2 times. Now that is a very good record of nuclear deterrent.

Ike violated Federal law i believe. Posse Comitatus was the law and he used Federal troops. School choice favors blacks. A lot of whites may end up hating school choice if many blacks take advantage of it.