Comey confirms FBI probe into Trump-Russia collusion

That is a fair assessment sir. At least you will admit that IF there was collusion between the Russian spy agencies and the Trump campaign, it is a big problem. The difference between what Comey and the GOP Congress did for months down the stretch of a national election against Clinton, and what is going on now is huge. The election is over sir. It looks to me as if Russian military intel waged a huge cyber attack against Clinton and the Democrats using hackers, cyborbots and internet trolls to get Trump elected. Whether or not it can be proved that Trump himself was involved is yet to be proven. The big question remains: why do the Russians want Trump in power? At least these revelations will keep a white hot spotlight on Trump and his band of swindlers as it pertains to foreign policy and corruption. Hell, one of Trump's first moves as President was to hire a foreign agent as his National Security Chief. The press, the congress and the people in general should keep a close watch on these thieving sleaze bags who barely oozed their way into power.

 

And that investigation has been going on since last summer correct?

 

With data on Trump "associates" from the wiretap that never was....

 

That's amazing, isn't it? But you failed to acknowledge that Comey was caught more than once lying to both the Senate and the Congress. In a nutshell, a proven liar calls someone else a liar.

Ordinary Americans are really in a difficult situation. All those disclosures, leaks, Wikileaks revelations etc...proved that the whole American establishment is one big, gigantic lie. Everyone is bloody lying. There is no institution Americans can turn to. Everyone is compromised.

 

When did the investigation began and who ordered it ?

 

I'm still cool.

 

Then how did this happen??

 

They likely got caught in one of their many calls to the Russians

 

But there WAS NO WIRETAP....remember? And this was SHARED WITH THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE....

 

It's what happens when you have party loyalism, the two party system created by Martin Van Buren has America trapped in corruption not seen since the third world.

 

Pardon my persistent cynicism. especially in the circumstance, but I put to you - will they tell us what they know, or what they want the rest of us to know? When I have my reasons to lose trust in someone, or in a group which I know has a secret agenda, then I never trust a word they say subsequently. You're obviously smart enough to know (without my telling you) that Comey is merely a puppet, and will announce what he's told to: in this case he's working for both sides who have their agenda against one man?? 'A fox in the hen-house' as I put it the other day on one of the forums.

 

Merely a "puppet".

With Bigfoot (in a tinfoil hat) pulling his strings.

 

Isn't it yours too? I mean we all have our prejudices? I use the MSM to get the news and then make up my own mind - sometimes I'll be wrong, sometimes I'll be right, that's how it goes. Generally speaking though, and in all modesty, I'm quite pleased with my analytical track record of being proven right by subsequent of events.

 

What?

 

Exactly so.

You can say that again; Franz Kafka could write a book on today's American bureaucracy.

 

It's difficult to follow the track in this mainstream media disinformation war against Trump and his administration. What is provable is that the FBI started their investigation against the Trump campaign in late July 2016. Incidentally, it's almost certain that neocons (McCain/Graham) 'hired' Steel to dig up the dirt on Trump so they could blackmail him.


FBI probe of Trump-Russia ties began 3 months before election

Michael Isikoff, Chief Investigative Correspondent, Yahoo NewsMarch 21, 2017

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-probe-of-trump-russia-ties-began-last-summer-232954307.html

The FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, confirmed by FBI director James Comey in congressional testimony Monday, began as early as late July — just weeks after a former British spy briefed bureau agents about evidence he had collected about such ties, sources tell Yahoo News.

Christopher Steele, a former British MI-6 intelligence officer who specialized in Russian operations, had been hired as an investigator by an opposition research firm (initially retained by Trump’s Republican primary opponents and later by supporters of Hillary Clinton). According to one of the sources, it was Steele who first alerted FBI agents on July 5 to evidence he had compiled that advisers to the Trump campaign and Kremlin officials were in contact about the 2016 election.

As first reported by Yahoo News, Steele’s information was taken seriously because he had a pre-existing relationship with the FBI, having worked as a consultant for the FBI’s Eurasian organized crime section, helping to develop information about ties between suspected Russian gangsters and FIFA, the international soccer governing body.

The early contact between Steele and the bureau now appears to have set in motion a chain of events that led to Monday’s extraordinary testimony by Comey that the bureau has been actively investigating possible links between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin since “late July” — or more than three months before Election Day...

 

Don't be surprised. He's one of those who do the shift work in Soros's sponsored boiler rooms. Don't be harsh on him, he is punished enough to work in a room without windows or natural light.

 

I don't understand what satisfaction they get from writing these meaningless hit-and-run posts.

 

Yep , common knowledge that there was surveillance on Trump. A. K. A. Wiretapped. Trump was right again . Does he ever tire of winning ?

 

Sure thing and they face jail time if they didn't say that but Snowden proved government spies in citizens.

 

There will be no evidence of Trump collusion with Russians to fix election, please just stop that makes you look silly to think there was, NEXT

And of course Trumps team was surveilled, NEXT

These will both be bourne out, use your own mind and think about both of those things in reality and how absurd one is that it DID happen
and how absurd the other is that it DIDNT happen
Think for yourselves, not how CNN spins it

 

Your condescending attitude dismissed.

My point is… have you seen the transcript? If you haven't, then it hasn't been leaked. I haven't seen it and I have looked for it. The Media doesn't have the transcript. I understand and comprehend lots about this subject. I'm not sure you're reading the links that I have provided or your post wouldn't be so patronizing and wrong. If they HEARD about the transcript, then the didn't leak it. It's gossip. The ones telling what they heard aren't leaking classified information, they are gossiping. If there is no leak, there is no felony. Geeze! To prove a felony, there has to be evidence. Gossip isn't evidence. We know there is a transcript, because Flynn changed his story. We haven't seen the transcript. We just know about the existence of one… one so powerful, Flynn was fired for lying because of it.

You don't have to believe anything. You can look directly at Sessions telling an untruth and say it is the truth if you want to. You can see a chain of events that seem anything but coincidental and watch the director of the FBI say they are investigating and believe it is all some kind of governmental conspiracy to take down Trump, rather than a counter-intelligence investigation. I don't make those closed-minded conclusions that deem the intelligence agencies guilty of conspiracy to take down a president, while the evidence is right in front of your face that members of the Trump staff are lying. Keep thinking that those lying to your face and lying about connections to Russia and believe it is the intelligence agencies setting Trump up for political reasons, if you like.

 

I don't use the phrase main stream media. It is an idiotic and lazy attempt to label any and all media with which the person disagrees.

I am just curious when I run across someone who claims to dismiss all MSM whether they are even capable of analyzing the terms inherent to the label, i.e. that the media that is "main stream" should also be the media that garners the most readership.

 

That's just it, it's not a chain of evidence. Because none of the 'suspects'(if we're to call them that) collaborated. Indeed, with what little we know we can say for certain there isn't a single link between the Russians that the various players(Manafort, Paul and Flynn met). The closest being that Flynn and Sessions both had contact with the Russian Ambassador. And as Sessions clearly stated and is obvious to anyone with a comprehensive reading level, Sessions only had that contact as a member of Congress and didn't know or see any foul play within the Trump Campaign.

That wolves with an agenda saw something different doesn't make it a lie. It means you engaged in Trump-wiretap before it became a thing.

Rule #1 of real conspiracies: If a conspiracy exists, there will always be a chain. The only "chain" that exists is people connected to Trump met with various Russians. But those Russians themselves, lack a chain(again, other than they're Russians.) That's not good enough. To be real blunt with the wolves: It's not even enough to open up an investigation.

Let me again, remind you what is required of law enforcement: Clear and COMPELLING evidence. Beyond reasonable doubt. The standard didn't get lowered, because you want to believe in the Russian Conspiracy. There is on the other hand, clear and compelling evidence that the transcripts had been released or heard and therefore leaked.

When Comey said he wouldn't prosecute the leakers(but, he takes it "very seriously"). He undermined what little credibility the FBI has left. That and when the FBI allowed the DNC to not give them the server(which serves as EVIDENCE in a criminal investigation), I now have doubts that they are obviously unwilling to clear.

Why do you think the 'investigation' is still continuing? I'll tell you: Comey lacks the evidence to meet my standards. He could never prove with clear and compelling evidence of Russian Conspiracy. In fact, he actually proved that with his lame reasoning on why Russia would help Trump "Because if it undermines Hillary, it clearly helps Trump." That line of reasoning should have opened a whole bunch of NEW questions.

One that majorly comes to mind is: Do we even have clear and compelling evidence of any interference? That is to say, the conspiracy's very floor is undermined if the Russians goal was to undermine the elections regardless of who won or not. Think about it: With all that dirt on Hillary released, the tables would be reversed on everything from the country's emotions to the investigation.

If that's the case, this entire conspiracy goes down in flames. Comey himself killed it with that lame answer. What we 'learned' is that the FBI should stick to being the tax revenue agency and not a federal investigation bureau.

 

Comey confirmed the investigation began in July under Obama's watch. Are you really going to believe that the FBI did NOT use all kinds of surveillance techniques including wiretapping? Get real...I really don't believe anything Comey says. As for leakers---my first choices would be who Gowdy asked Comey about---Lynch, Clapper, Brennan and Rice. SOMEONE did it and they should be LOCKED UP.