Breaking : Numerous people shot outside UK Parliament .....

We are in the beginning stages of WWIII, but we don't even recognize it because THIS enemy doesn't have a Messerschimtts or Panzers, etc. They do have Hondas and Toyotas, however. (3 Vehicular Jihad attacks in the last few days.)

 

Hell yes, Saudi Arabia didn't even make the travel ban list despite being the place where most of the 9/11 terrorists came from.
Trump is no better than any who came before him when it comes to lucrative big oil and defence contracts.

 

Our Nige back on Fox, on the London Muslim attack, immigration and the Trump wiretapping revelations.

 

No, they see liberals in the UK and don't want to be put in jail for shooting a criminal.

They'd rather be stabbed to death than face the liberal courts.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...man-anthony-long-cleared-azelle-rodney-murder

 

Top of the BBC news this morning? The killers name! I mean who gives a **** what the ****'s name was? I hope the bastard burns in hell for eternity - not that I believe in hell, but in this case I'll suspend my belief!

 

Tell that to the relatives of those who were killed - or even worse, mutilated and maimed by their 'catastrophic injuries' - and see if they agree with you.

 

Only because you import terrorism.

The political fools get "bundled" into cars and evacuated or have personal armed security guards.

Normal people? Not so much. They get mowed down and told to keep that stiff English upper lip going.

 

FOX is so bias. They take this issue, and try to turn it into a pro-Trump agenda piece.

 

Good point. But a rhetorical question: What must be going through the mind of any 'human being' when he's driving a vehicle at speed feeling the impacts of solid steel against flesh and bone, not to mention the fear on the faces of those who are looking directly at him as he heads straight at them? ffs who can even conceive of doing such a thing let alone actually carrying it out. They're not human, they're mutants.

 

I think both they and common logic would agree.

 

Why the hell did you start it then? Over a million Muslims have died due to the actions of the US....and how many thousands do you think your secular people have killed while sitting in a room pointing at a target....and if we take it that this man was inspired by ISIS, just why is there no thought to the people who are the main people killed by these terrorists, Muslims themselves.

 

Like me, they'd undoubtedly agree, but would they care? That's the point I was making - that your comment was a non sequitur.

 

You're not making any sense.

 

Update : The London attacker has been identified. Khalid Masood 52, UK born and a Muslim convert. He was born Adrian Elms. Khalid Masood has had over 20 year history of crime and has been known to police and MI5.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-...man-who-carried-out-the-london-attack/8383262

 

North America has / had none? Ehm ... seriously?

Source Wikipedia...

18th century
19 April 1775 to 3 September 1783: American Independence War
1776 to 1890: Indian War
1798 to 1800: Quasi-war with France

19th century
1801 to 1805: American-Tripolitan War
18 June 1812 to 18 February 1815: British-American War
1815 - Second Barbaresk war
1838 to 1839: Aroostook war
Annexation of Texas, which belonged to Mexico until 1836 and was then an independent state. The result is a war between Mexico and the USA lasting until 1848, ending with the conquest of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah and parts of Kansas, Colorado and Wyoming. Mexico loses about half of its current territory.
Japan: Commodore Matthew Perry enforces the opening of the Japanese ports with military force threats.
9th - 15th July 1854: Nicaragua - Destruction of San Juan del Norte (Greytown, see bombing of Greytown) after the US Ambassador was injured by a charged crowd and no compensation was given.
1857 to 1858: Utah war
12 April 1861 to 23 June 1865: Secession war
Cuba: Participation in the Cuban liberation struggle against the Spanish colonization. The US unleash the Spanish-American War and subordinate Cuba to the Spanish defeat of their military administration.
12 June 1898 to 4 July 1902: Philippines - With the help of the United States, which are in conflict with Spain, the Philippines of Spain are separated and declare themselves independent. In the Philippine-American War they are subjected by the United States to original promises, which in their turn are setting up a colonialist regime.
12 August 1898: Hawaii - annexation of the previously independent Pacific Kingdom.
10th December 1898: Puerto Rico - After the American-Spanish War the island is annexed by the United States due to the defeat of Spain.

20th century
23rd to 31st March 1903: Honduras - US troops land at Puerto Cortez to protect the US Consulate and shipyard during revolutionary unrest.
3 November 1903: Panama - In order to secure control over the planned sewer construction, the United States is supporting the secession of Panamás from Colombia. Panamá becomes an autonomous republic, but at the same time becomes completely economic and political dependent on the United States. The Panama Canal, completed in 1914 and officially put into operation in 1920, becomes American territory, dividing the young republic into two distinct halves.
Military intervention in the Dominican Republic
1906 to 1909: Military interventions in Cuba
February 8, 1907: Military intervention in the Dominican Republic. The United States secured financial control over the country (repealed in 1940).
March 18 to June 8, 1907: Honduras - US troops are stationed in Trujillo, Ceiba, Puerto Cortez, San Pedro Sula, Laguna and Choloma to protect American interests during a war between Honduras and Nicaragua.
US military intervention in Nicaragua 1909-1925 - American armed forces intervene in domestic political conflicts.
1911 to 1925: Honduras - Various interventions ensure the monopoly of the American-owned banana industry. The country is in complete economic and political dependence on the United States.
US military intervention in Cuba
1912 to 1925: Nicaragua is subjected to American financial and military control.
1914 to 1915: Mexico - interference in domestic political battles (protection of the government Venustiano Carranzas).
1915 to 1934: Haiti - occupation of the Caribbean Republic. Administration of the country as a protectorate. After the withdrawal of the American troops, American financial stability will persist (until 1947).
18 February 1916: Nicaragua - The United States enforces the right to set up military bases.
March 1916 / February 1917: American punishment expedition in Mexico
1916 to 1924: occupation of the Dominican Republic
1917 to 1919: participation of the American Expeditionary Forces on the First World War on the part of the Entente against the Central Powers.
1917-1919: Military intervention in Cuba
1918 to 1920: in the Russian Civil War joint intervention with the British and French on the side of the White Army in the Arkhangelsk area (Polar Bear Expedition) and together with the Japanese in the area of Vladivostok (American Expeditionary Force Siberia).
8-12 September 1919: Honduras - Military intervention prevents a revolution.
28 February to 31 March and 10 to 15 September 1924: Honduras - US troops intervene to protect American citizens and interests during the unrest in the run-up to the elections.
September: Republic of China - US Marines land in Shanghai to protect Americans and other foreigners in unrest.
15 January to 29 August 1925: Republic of China - Fighting between Chinese groupings again lead to the landing of US troops in Shanghai.
April 19 - 21, 1925: Honduras - US troops land at La Ceiba during political unrest.
US military intervention in Nicaragua 1926-1933, occupation of Nicaragua. You resisted Augusto César Sandino in a guerrilla war.
In the Dominican Republic, the United States is helping Rafael Leónidas Trujillo Molina. He established one of the most despotic regimes in the history of Latin America, which lasted until his assassination in 1961.
In Cuba, the United States is giving power to the army's commander-in-chief, General Fulgencio Batista Zaldívar (1901-1973), who completely surrenders the country to American interests. The Batista dictatorship coincides with the Cuban revolution of Fidel Castro and his movement of July 26 (1926).
1941 to 1945: Second World War - The United States participated in various war zones in Europe, Asia and Africa. The main opponents are Germany, Italy and the imperial kingdom of Japan.
Greece - The United States to prevent a communist takeover, logistical, technical, military and financial support. Although US soldiers do not participate in the war, the US sends military advisors and war materials to Athens.
In West Berlin, the United States and its allies erected an air bridge to supply the city during the Berlin blockade through the Soviet Union.

1950 to 1953 Korea - The United States, legitimized by the UN Security Council Resolution 85 in the Soviet Union, came to the aid of the pro-Western regime in South Korea, which has been severely affected by a surprise attack by the Communist North.Egypt - On the occasion of the Suez Crisis The United States sends several warships and aircraft carriers to the eastern Mediterranean, forcing the United Kingdom and France to end their military intervention on the Suez Canal.
July to October 1958: Lebanon - The United States intervenes in Lebanon at the request of Christian President Camille Chamoun.
People's Republic of China - In the confrontation between the People's Republic of China and Taiwan around the Taiwan-based islands of Quemoy and Matsu, the United States is sending the support of Taiwan's naval units to the crisis area.
Cuba - The United States is financing and supporting guerrilla operations from its territory to overthrow the government of Prime Minister Fidel Castro in Cuba.
April 17, 1961: Cuba - A guerilla group of exiled Cubans trained and equipped by the United States failed in the invasion of the bay of Cuba. The operation is being prepared by the American bombardment of Cuban air defense positions.
During the so-called Kubakrise (October / November) the island is blocked with a total blockade.
May 1964: Laos - (Laotian Civil War) - Airplanes and body groups (about 10,000 men) start attacks on the areas of Pathet Lao. After years of fighting, however, no military solution emerged and the American intervention forces left the country in March 1970.
1964 to 1975: Vietnam - The United States is massively involved in the Vietnam War. At the height of the war, some 550,000 American soldiers are deployed.
1964 to 1982: Bolivia - The United States is involved in a variety of military coups and counterrevolutionaries.
April to September 1965: Dominican Republic (Operation Power Pack) - After the fall of the left-wing president Juan Bosch and the installation of a military junta with American help, a civil war broke out. The United States intervenes with 42,000 marines, prompting newcomers to win Joaquín Balaguer, who has served as a victor in the Trujillo dictatorship for 30 years (see Rafael Trujillo). Balaguer, in close collaboration with the United States, is responsible for Dominican policy for the next 35 years.
May 1965: Cambodia - The United States bomb bordering villages along the Vietnamese border. The country is thereby involved in the Vietnam War!
September 1970: Jordan - In the Jordanian Civil War, the United States is taking sides for the royal house and sending aircraft carriers and warships to the eastern Mediterranean.
India / Pakistan - In the Indian-Pakistani conflict over the independence of Bangladesh, the United States is sending naval associations to the Gulf of Bengal.
Angola - The United States is supporting the UNITA rebels in their struggle against the Marxist-Leninist MPLA government.
1977 to 1992: El Salvador - The United States supports the governments that they use or approve in the fight against the Marxist-Leninist opposition. As a result, the country disintegrates in a ten-year civil war.
April 25, 1980: Iran - The militraction operation Eagle Claw of the United States failed to liberate the American hostages in the occupied US embassy in Tehran.
From 1981: Nicaragua - After the successful Sandinista revolution of 1979, the United States continues the financial, military and logistical support of the followers of the dictatorship of Anastasio Somoza Debayle, and fight the Sandinistas after turning to a Marxist-Leninist course.
From 1981 onwards, Afghanistan - the United States granted the mujahid and other Afghan resistance fighters massive financial, military and logistical help in their struggle against the Soviet occupation of the country.
From 1982: Contras, from Honduras operating opponents of the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, receive military and logistical help from the USA.
April 1982: Argentina - The United States provides logistical support and reconnaissance through its spy satellites to British troops in the war against Argentina (Falkland War) with their military base on the Atlantic island of Ascension.
Iran is receiving weapons to counter the US-backed Iraqi government in exchange for the American hostages in the occupied embassy in Tehran.
September 1983: Lebanon - The United States is part of an international peace group in the Lebanese Civil War, but it is not the least of its kind. The intervention failed after several bloody suicide attacks and the multinational armed force leaves Lebanon (February / March 1984).
25 October 1983: Grenada - Maurice Bishop, a left-wing Prime Minister, is executed by a coup defender. The approach of the new government to the Soviet Union leads to military intervention.
1 May 1985 Nicaragua - After the election of the left-wing Sandinists on 4 November 1984, the United States imposed a complete bargaining agreement against Nicaragua, because the Sandinistas are very rapidly pushing the Marxist-Leninist forces. Continuing the support of the opposition (Contras) to the overthrow of the Sandinista regime, which had been in power since 1979.
February 1986: Haiti - The United States is under massive pressure from the population of the Duvalier family dictatorship, which has been dominant since 1957 and has been protected by it. Dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier, called Baby Doc, flees abroad.
April 14, 1986: Libya - In retaliation for Libyan terrorism, the United States bomb targets in Tripoli and Bengasi (Operation El Dorado Canyon).
July 3, 1988: Iran - An Airbus A300 passenger aircraft of Iran Air is launched over the Strait of Hormuz by USS Vincennes (CG-49). 290 people die. According to the American figures, it was not possible for the crew to distinguish the civilian airbus from an Iranian combat aircraft or to make contact with the pilot. The USS Vincennes remained at the time of Operation Earnest Will in Iranian territorial waters. The captain of the USS Vincennes received an award. The United States later compensated the relatives of the victims.
20 December 1989: Panama is occupied (Operation Just Cause). The arrested Panamanian leader, General Manuel Noriega, is sent to the United States, charged with drug trafficking and money laundering, and sentenced to 40 years' imprisonment on 10 July 1992.
In March 1990, Operation Sharp Edge took place in response to the Liberian Civil War. In August 1990, 1648 foreigners and refugees from the capital, Monrovia and other gathering points were rescued in the hinterland. Subsequently, the military presence ensured a temporary calming of the situation.
From 1990 In the drug war in Colombia, the United States is supporting paramilitary units to combat communist rebels.
8 August 1990: Saudi Arabia - After the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait on 2 August 1990, the United States sent forces to Saudi Arabia to support the regime there and prepare an attack on Iraq.
January / February 1991: Kuwait: US-led coalition forces, legitimized by a decision of the United Nations World Security Council, are marching into Kuwait, ending the Iraqi occupation of the country with the operation Desert Storm.
From 1992 February / March: Yugoslavia - Under NATO's supreme command, NATO carries out several military operations in favor of the Croatians and Bosnians imprisoned by Serbs in the capital Sarajevo in Yugoslavia after the massacre of Srebrenica [1].
August 27, 1992: Iraq - The United States is building a flight ban in Iraq for Iraqi aircraft north of the latitude of 36 ° N and south of 33 ° N. The air war is restricted until 2002, allegedly to prevent Saddam Hussein from air raids on the Iraqi Kurds in the north and the Shiites in the south of the country and to prevent another attack on Kuwait.
9 December 1992: Somalia - The United States, at the request of the Secretary-General of the United Nations, and the Security Council's resolution, send 28,000 soldiers to Somalia to end the civil war (retreat in 1994 after a bloody attempt to capture General Mohammed Farah Aidid).
June 27, 1993: Iraq war ships are carrying out an operation against Iraq and firing 23 cruise missiles on Baghdad.
August / September 1994: Haiti - American forces are pushing to reinstate President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, who has been overthrown by a military coup in 1991, under pressure from the United Nations Security Council.
20 August 1998: Sudan - In retaliation for the terrorist attacks on the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the United States is launching an air attack on an alleged poison gas factory, which later emerged as the Asch-Schifa drug factory.
March to June 1999: Kosovo War - NATO under the command of the United States carried out extensive bombardments against targets in Yugoslavia to force a withdrawal of Serbian troops and police from Kosovo. Following the conclusion of a cease-fire, the province of Kosovo is secured by KFOR troops and an interim civilian government is set up under United Nations administration.




So yes ... the USA had none / by far not so many conflicts and military involvements as Europe in their far shorter history in comparison to Europe!

 

Wrong, he was Christian White British who convert into Islam because these Islamist rat pipers ... which are the biggest threat over all and too often underestimated!!! ... brainwashed him!

So ... not the common target to blame Islam this time, eh?
no evil refugee
no evil immigrant
no evil natural born Muslim

 

I'd rather maintain some dignity than descend into drama queen hysterics and buying more guns, as Americans are prone to do.

 

No, I won't openly criticise anyone else's religious text. This is "out of bounds", because it is an insult at a very fundamental level and would, in the practitioners' eyes, be seen as you placing yourself above god. That can only go one way.

Its like saying that a race has "inferior" DNA. Religious practice can be criticized, much like someone's behaviour can be criticised. But as humble mortals, you and I cannot judge what is superior or inferior in either genetics or God.

 

You could "get away with" having sex with a 7 yo girl in Delaware in 1880, although for most of the United States it was 10 at the time....
https://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/case-studies/230?section=primarysources&source=24

I'm not saying that this was right, but for most of human civilized history, marriage was primarily a function of property allocation rather than sexual desire.

 

I thought of suspected that he would be a 'recent' convert. The two Lee Rigby murderers were carried out by converts. The subway attacker was carried out by a 'recent' convert.

It seems like potential murderers find an avenue to validate their murderous intentions in order to self-justify their murders. How 'Muslim' were they?

 

You do understand, that your post only reinforces, what librals claim is a misguided belief held by many Americans? To wit: That all muslims, regardless of nationality, or assimilation, are potential terrorists. Further, that Islam is inherently violent. Kudos!

 

This is something I'll speak up for CNN about. They have a policy of not naming these killers. Seems the BBC can't get enough of him.

 

Indeed; and child marriage and betrothal was both commonplace and a cultural norm in the West in the time of Mohammad and beyond. Furthermore the accusation of paedophilia so often levelled by the unthinking conservative right is also misplaced, as there was no such concept at the time. Attempting to conflate 21st century morality with that of the Dark Ages is stupid and doomed to fail.

 

No, I don't understand this and have an other opinion about.

#01 ... these "Islam is in general evil" trolls can't be convinced to believe in reality rubbish by anything of facts.
#02 ... any serious and important differences are ignored in general, because anything what hurts it, is ignored.

But I must say "gocha", that it was this time not an in general evil refugee or immigrant, because that own people can become victim of rat pipers and do such things was in parts denied to happen by these trolls too!

 

I'm afraid the once-great BBC has lost its way in many things. In one report they referred to him as Mr Masood.