Bombshell: Nunes Says There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration

I don't have a problem with reading comprehension. The fact that the Trump campaign has been under investigation for some time is not news. We've suspected it since just after the election, and it was confirmed last Monday.

It's not hard to see why. The serial corruption and untrustworthiness of Donald Trump is no secret. That he has had dealings with Russian oligarchs is no secret. The fact that he has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal his business dealings is no secret. Trump is a whore. He does not care who his in bed with as long as he gets what he wants.

Just nine months ago, right wingers were panting in anticipation for the latest dump from Guccifer 2.0 (Russian intelligence).

So who is the useful idiot?

 

American politics is entirely too partisan, and has been for some time

 

Let's leave democrats, republicans, Trump, Hillary out of this for a while and focus on the U.S laws and the U.S Constitution. I believe you read the letter. Do you believe in the rule of law? Do you have any respect for the U.S constitution?

 

Wow. Real bombshell.

Of course, every time you walk into an airport, you are under "incidental" surveillance...
And if you wonder through Time's Square in NY, you are under "incidental" surveillance.
So it would be surprising if Trump DIDN'T occasionally show up on surveillance tapes.

Just sayin' .

 

Normally, I would eschew Hitlerian evocations as well, but the depiction is courtesy of the neo-nazi Daily Stormer and is intended by them to depict their affinities.

 

Possible the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You leftist and your bs analogies calling hard working Americans nazi's and hitler like, is beyond troubling. You really should check yourself and really go back to grade school and read history. Your divide and conquer is the exact reason your side losses at every turn but your blind ignorance to it is rather laughable.

 

So, Trump, realizing he is being investigated for what amounts to TREASON, decides to make up a cover story out of whole cloth, in the confidence that his useful mentally challenged will take the ball and run with it. They, naturally, oblige

Trump hates Muslims, illegals and the poor, he could eat these people's children and they would bring ketchup

 

So let's get this right because there is now proof that not only was the trump administration caught up in surveillance, unmasked illegally, spread throughout the intelligence community because of a last minute executive order, then illegally leaked and with all that surveillance every intelligent agency says there was no collusion nor evidence of it, in your mind it's easy to see Trump was the corrupt one. Good grief how much do you have to ignore the facts to come to this conclusion. The Dems through everything they had to get the weak minded to believe this and against all real evidence you still believe this crap.

 

No, I really mean it. The righties here can't be bothered to accept any fact that goes against the Trump narrative, and the lefties here can't help themselves but blame everything on Trump.

As Americans, we should -all- be concerned about foreign influence in our elections, and it shouldn't be a right/left wing thing. We should -all- be concerned about government officials revealing investigation data to the person being investigated.

We should all be concerned about the establishment trying to undermine our candidates. We should all be concerned about open and hidden fixing of our primaries.

I really can't believe how partisan it has become. Our government, and the hollow elitists that were elected to head it, have become massive obstructions to everything we want done. Look at the Freedom Caucus. Harry Reid. Mitch McConnell.

They've -ALL- managed to even further polarize everything, and get everyone blaming each other, and not one of the left or right can be bothered to stop for just a moment, look at facts, and demand change.

You're all a sad representation of how vacuous and unintelligent the political discourse has become in America.

 

And so many of the other alt-right / anti-Semitic / white supremacist website that absolutely exploded into MAGA cultism as his candidacy gained traction.

Never mind the leader of the I want to make the alt-right mainstream - is now the commander in chief's right hand man.

 

You really should lose the "Possible the dumbest thing I've ever heard." It not only is trite...it is something only an amateur would include in a post.

Just trying to help. You guys need lots of that.

 

McCain has never seen anything like it before; http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/swalwell-dems-demand-nunes-evidence-by-friday-905290307611 This is one of the craziest things I have ever seen. Whoever, cough cough Trump, is manufacturing these diversions like the 05 tax returns and the fake wiretap claims, is the same person who had Nunes make up some wild scenario where nothing was done illegal, run and tell the very person who is being investigated who probably started the whole thing, then run back to the press with this phony story, destroying the entire credibility of the investigation.

Nunes is out of control crazy.

By the way, I almost forgot the best part. The cough cough president knew about what Nunes was going to tell the president, evidenced by the Time article, before Nunes pretended that he just discovered this news when heading to the presidents office.

 

Has John Miller weighed in on this?

 

Nice rant. I'm all with you on not allowing foreign interests interfering with our elections. Really.

Now, what do you think about Jimmy Carter, Tip O’Neill and 800 lb Democratic gorilla himself, Ted Kennedy, seeking help from KGB and the Russian Government in the 80's to undermine American democratic processes and sabotage re-election of Ronald Reagan? What do you think about Obama sending $350k to a group called OneVoice, supposedly to further peace efforts in Israel. The money was actually spent on a failed attempt to unseat Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

A condemnation of Liberal Democrats practices of subverting American politics is called for, it seems. Don't you think so?

 

Of course he has, he has just forgotten. Ted Kennedy asking KGB for help in fighting Reagan? Rings a bell?

 

You can't fix stupid.

 

I'm for ending the subversion of democratic processes by our government, regardless of political affiliation. I agree with you that any and all forms of money pushing by democrats to demolish our democratic process ought to be condemned. It's hypocrisy at the highest level for any side to claim they support democracy, from Democrats taking foreign money (and republicans, I might add) to republicans pushing regime change (and democrats, I might add) in foreign countries.

It's all over the map. We need to pull this back a bit.

 

How did your deranged mind twist you into such mumbo jumbo. For the third time. No one (except you and maybe your mom) gives a **** that some neo-nazis (or just plain nazis) like Trump's position on immigration. It doesn't prove Trump's position is wrong nor does it in anyway prove that Trump lusts after the support of the readers of stormfront, as you continually infer. You apparently are stupid enough to believe you have found a reason why Trump should abandon his enforcement of immigration laws: Because Stormfront Likes It? What am I censoring? I didn't deny that self-identified "nazis" may support Trump for reasons only their fevered brains can come up with. I don't care if some deluded *******s who think life under Hitler was the "good old days", support Trump. What does that prove about Trump? NOTHING.

Now if you want to discuss radical elements of La Raza, that support Reconquista, supported Hillary, we can have a discussion.

 

The government itself needs to return to more of a middle ground that everyone can work with. It's getting too polarized. But the US government was not designed to work in a polarized two party system. We need to go back to being Federalists.

 

I would agree. The partisanship that is being displayed is fundamentally harmful. Yes, we should be interested in when a foreign nation attempts to sway an election. It's why so many of us were horrified by the doner list to the Clinton foundation. I mean, we had actual proof of it. What we also know is that there are two competing narratives in the Russian context. The first is that they colluded to attempt to produce the winner in the presidential election they most wanted to win. And to that end, they were able to hack the email services of one party to their detriment once published in the public square. In this case the Wikileaks.

The second competing narrative is that the evidence now shows that US intel services, namely the CIA and NSA used the same tools that produced the same signatures of hack that Russian hackers may have used to accomplish the above hacks. The significance of this should not be overlooked as it is just as forensically likely now that our own intel services had both method as well as potential motive to effect the hacks themselves at the direction of? Open question.

Yes, these are extraordinary times then. Bureaucracy rising up to defend itself from a threat that hadn't even happened yet? If we are to worry, shouldn't we at least somewhat worry about the danger our own bureaucratic infra are presenting today? And if not, why not?

I agree, this isn't a partisan thing. This is something that i would hope would find members of both sides would agree to.

 

It's ironic that so many of the Trump® Cult become verklempt at my not being "pc" in citing their messiah's enthusiastic support from neo-nazi and other white supremacist organizations.

They eagerly cite millions of imaginary people all voting illegally against him, but become upset when I mention real folks who are undeniably for him.

Go figure.

 

You are upset that I accurately cite neo-nazi support for Trump's agenda.

If you would prefer that such information be suppressed, you might do better to pretend it is not true - and eat a cookie.

 

Yea, I agree. When folks like Nunes go rogue to protect his fake president, go to the speaker, and the speaker has Nunes bypass the head of the Democrat committee chair Adam Schiff, and take the information to the fake president, who already knew what Nunes was coming to tell him before he got there, just tells me there is no longer any middle ground, and corruption has swallowed the Republican party whole; http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/swalwell-dems-demand-nunes-evidence-by-friday-905290307611

 

Don't count me amongst those cult members who care one whit about who, or why, anyone voted for Trump. I'd have voted for David Duke to keep Hillary out of the WH. Our "messiah" is on the precipice of returning sanity to the SCOTUS. All hail Trump!

 

It's absurd that this whole mess is happening in real time, right before our eyes. I mean, as a lot of folks here know, I am not a Trump supporter, and am generally a critic of most (not all) things he wants to do.

HOWEVER. He is revealing the terrifying underbelly of American politics, and I agree with his assertion of a deep state. There is a very real problem here from all angles.

The Russia thing is a lose-lose for us. Either way, it damages everything. The very real threat our intelligence services pose to every day Americans should be outraging all of us. If the Russian hacks did happen, we lose. If the CIA/FBI/NSA fabricated the hacks, we lose. If Obama didn't order a wiretap, we lose. If Obama did order a wiretap, we lose.

We the people are the losers here. It's just sad.