"My husband is being deported." - Trump supporter

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Such a fun straw man. Got any more?
     
  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    According to American businesses, the need isn't temporary. The temporary/seasonal work you are looking at is purely agricultural. Those are not the only unskilled labor needs.
     
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    The guy said "likely".
    Such a neat word.
    So cute that you said,"Straw man".
     
  4. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's one of the downfalls of being a citizen of your country. You can feel the love.
     
  5. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well he is either a legal citizen or an illegal alien, I don't think there's an in-between.
     
  6. Woolley

    Woolley Well-Known Member

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    We will always need unskilled labor and also willing skilled labor. The bracero program addressed this for a while but when people come here to work, they fall in love, have kids, want to stay. There is no real solution to this problem as long as we need the labor and Mexico has the supply. If you really want to change this, make Mexico into a modern state with a vibrant middle class, great education and crime free. But if we do that, we will still need that labor so where would we go then? Guatemala? The problem just never goes away does it?
     
  7. monkrules

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    I'd rather they catch the Orange fart, and try him for fraud or whatever, and send HIM to prison (where he most likely belongs).
     
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    That would all depend on whatever whatever is?

    There may be a witch hunt needed to identify whatever whatever is.

    And who's good at witch hunts ? The liberals, progressives and the Obama White House and Valerie Jarrett were pretty good at conducting witch hunts. Liberals back in the early 1990's spearheaded the witch hunts that continue today.

    They'll change the meaning or the definition of a word to further a radical leftist agenda and shop for an activist judge who legislates from the bench.

    The classic liberal PC witch hunt has to be "Tailhook."

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/1993 October Vol 2, No.pdf

     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If your here with permission, but without citizenship..........that IS an in-between
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is because he went to Canada he is even in this mess now. If he hadn't done that, he would be a citizen by now.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They can hope against hope I guess. He filed the papers to try to stop the deportation. If that does not work, he is highly unlikely to get the the waiver of the 10 year ban since they are essentially the same grounds as the waiver from deportation.
     
  12. monkrules

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    As far as the topic of this thread is concerned, I'm glad to see an effort to enforce our immigration laws. IMO, immigration should be cut WAY back. Time should be taken to let the huge number of refugees and immigrants who are already here to assimilate. Many of the new immigrants seem to have no interest in becoming "American." They just want to get out of whatever hell-hole they lived in before. And if they don't want to become "Americans" then why are they being allowed in?

    But as far as trump is concerned, that's another story.
    trump has proven to Americans and the world that he is a habitual LIAR. The LIES never end with this... person. And the LIES in his own words can be easily found, going back decades, in both audio and video. Even if you look at his recent past, the primary campaign, for instance, there were many times that trump made one statement to one audience, got on a plane, and said the exact opposite in another city.

    Trump has no integrity, no values, no principles. He is a greedy, self-absorbed, moron. Just think about the fraud he committed on the students to his trump university? He as much as admitted commiting fraud by paying money to those poor suckers, who had been stupid enough to have believed in the orange clown, millions and millions of dollars. This avaricious scumbag would NEVER have paid that money back if he wasn’t guilty of bilking those poor slobs out of their money in the first place.

    Then there are the SIX bankruptsies used to bilk investors, and to avoid paying suppliers, workers, suppliers, the money he OWED to them. In one casino, he filed bankruptsy, walked away with tens of millions, while leaving his investors to be screwed out of their money. All of the facts are out there for anyone with a brain to easily find, IF they want to know the truth.

    How ANYONE could support a living, rotten, LYING, scumbag like trump is beyond my understanding. But, like they say: Birds of a feather flock together. Eventually, even the most deluded trump supporter will have the slime-covered wool pulled from their eyes. Some are already realizing how they’ve been scammed by this Orange Phony. The real truth about this con man will come out in time — the horrible stuff we already know about trump is only the beginning.
     
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  13. GreenBayMatters

    GreenBayMatters Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope you feel better after spewing all that. BTW, does it bother you that you took all that effort to type your post, and none of us are going to read it?

    Have a nice day.
     
  14. monkrules

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    To tell you the truth, I'd be more surprised to find that trump supporters can read, period. Lol....

    Besides, there is no reason for you to worry — my post was in answer to a long post by a different, but also deluded, trump supporter.

    Enjoy your weekend.
     
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  15. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he means that the Mexicans had no choice but to illegally come to this country. It's not like they had an option to actually fight back and change their government by voting or just a revolution. Nope, the only option was obviously flood our country by the millions without regard to our culture or assimilation.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you support illegal immigrants coming into this country - YOU ARE A TRAITOR.
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    That's Right!

    Hopefully this guy can return, but through the front door as a lawful entrant.

    [​IMG]
    Winning! Palestinian Terrorist and Leader of Women’s March Stripped of U.S. Citizenship, Will Be Deported

    Convicted ‘Palestinian’ terrorist and leader of ‘A Day Without a Woman’ march, Rasmea Odeh, 69 is being STRIPPED
    of her U.S. citizenship and will be deported to Jordan.

    Odeh is being charged with immigration fraud for lying on her visa and citizenship forms about her past terrorist convictions and ties to terrorist groups.

    [​IMG]

    THE VETTING:

    She was convicted in Israel in 1970 of taking part in two bombings the year before, one at a supermarket in Jerusalem and another at the British consulate. Two Israeli students were killed in the supermarket bombing. Nine were injured in the two blasts.

    The left’s unholy alliance with Islam is very dangerous. Feminists have reached a new level of insanity, Muslim women and the hijab are the new face of the movement.

    This terrorist being stripped of her U.S. citizenship and being deported is a huge win for freedom! Hopefully this is the beginning of many many Muslims with terrorist ties being stripped of their citizenship and deported.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...march-stripped-u-s-citizenship-will-deported/
     
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    During America's progressive era American political progressives conducted the most comprehensive study ever conducted in history.

    Side note:
    The Dillingham Commission Report to Congress study showed that certain ethnicities had a serious problem of assimilating to America's culture, customs, traditions, laws and language. And we see that with the uncontrolled legal immigration and illegal aliens today the study was right on.
    The study also revealed which ethnicities made the best Americans and who didn't.

    http://ocp.hul.harvard.edu/immigration/dillingham.html

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/mb?a=listis;c=1425704207

    Donald Trump does have a problem with the facts but he's not a liar compared to Barack Obama or Crooked Hillary.

    For one to be a liar he or she must know they are lying and lying to deceive. If someone believes what they are telling is the truth, they aren't lying.

    Nothing illegal, America has bankruptcy laws for a purpose. Before our schools were used for cultural-marxist indoctrination you were taught in grade school and high school why we have bankruptcy laws. Don't like the law, like Candidate Trump told candidate Clinton during one of the debates. "Why didn't you change the bankruptcy laws in America when when you were in the Senate ?"

    Are you suggesting we return to the era of debtors prisons ? You remember it just wasn't the husband who went to debtors prison but the wife and children. It wasn't PC to separate the families.

    In the construction trades shoddy work or not fulfilling the contract means you aren't getting paid. That's how it works.
    But vendors and subcontractors in the trades also have protections, it's known as a "mechanics lien."

    < A mechanic's lien is a security interest in the title to property for the benefit of those who have supplied labor or materials that improve the property. The lien exists for both real property and personal property. >


    Don't believe everything you hear especially from George Soros websites and the MSM. Remember as exposed by Wikileaks...CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, New York Times, NBC News, ABC News and CBS News were all in collusion with the DNC or the Hillary campaign or the Obama White House or all three.

    All of the obstructionist, sedition, rioting on the streets, sanctuary cities, vaginas walking down the streets, Play Dough and coloring books are well organized by the left to take down the Trump Presidency.

     
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  19. Lil Mike

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    There are also non agricultural low skilled temporary visas.

    I don't know why you want a continuous stream of permanent stream of unskilled labor into the country, but with a possible half the jobs disappearing over the next 20 years due to automation, the idea of importing unskilled labor permanently is just plain irrational. All of our shortage (if any) of unskilled labor can be met with temporary visas.
     
  20. yardmeat

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    Not enough to keep up with demand, unfortunately.

    It isn't me who wants it. It is the labor market.

    So far I haven't found an economist who agrees with this assessment. The demand still seems to outstrip supply.
     
  21. Lil Mike

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    OK I'm confused. You wanted permanent settlement by Mexicans (you specifically mentioned that country) because you didn't believe there were visa programs to allow them to come here, and when I pointed out that yes, Mexicans could come here under temporary visas, you say it's not enough.

    What is the basis for your determining the the visa programs are inadequate? What's wrong with their temporary nature?
     
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    You are confused then. People asked why these folks didn't gain their citizenship legally and I pointed out that, for a certain sector of them, particularly the one in question, there was no such path to legal citizenship.
     
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    The ONLY thing missing is him from this country that he broke the law to come in and remain in.
     
  24. Lil Mike

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    Then you have not followed the flow of your conversation very well. Go back to message 109 and read through again. You were arguing that Mexicans couldn't come here, I said (basically) who cares, and you said that we needed their labor...
    ..and I pointed out they can come here to work. Apparently you were never concerned about labor demand or visas at all, you just wanted them to have an unlimited right to move here and live permanently. I can't guess on what your real motivation for that is, but it's obvious that you're not going to be honest about it since that whole bit about being worried about enough unskilled labor wasn't the real reason since there is no reason we can't supply that with temporary visas.

    But I find this to be the case in arguing with a lot of people on the left, they are never honest about their real agendas.
     
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    Could be true but would you then restrict their ability to have children while here on visas? How exactly would you do that? Do you think it is possible to keep men and women from falling in love or having sex while here on visas?
     

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