Why I'm done convincing diehard Trump Supporters

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Balto, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. PrincipleInvestment

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    It's much easier to walk, drive, or fly ... but if you have a mining permit and zoning approval what's to stop you?
     
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    I might have guessed this ;)
    Good point ;)
     
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    Not mining and not building anything. Just want to cross. I'm assuming, of course, sine our wall is "benevolent" no one from this side would try to stop me.

    A wall is a wall and walling ourselves in is UNAMERICAN.
     
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    A wall is very American. Those big beautiful oceans between us and europe and asia have saved us quite a few times.
     
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    BS.
     
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    You failed because you are wrong, you just are too indoctrinated to recognize it. Its that simple.
     
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    Uh ... you know ... you're free to visit, and tour the WH, but jumping the fence is frowned upon right? From my personal experience, in San Diego you simply cross a bridge and walk through a turnstile to enter Mexico. I've driven my car across as well. There have been southern border fences forever, and other than fleeing felons, no one is prevented from travelling. I realize the reality isn't as exciting as your Orwellian fantasy, but let's try and keep one foot on the ground.
     
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    Nah to enter the U.S. illegally is UNAMERICAN ;) Hell even Canada doesn't allow free reign!

     
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    An ocean is not a wall.
     
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    The German anthem doesn't mean what you think it does.

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    When most people hear the phrase "Deutschland über alles" it evokes powerful images, not many of them good. It's viewed as an expression of superiority, of "betterness" that people associate with the Nazis. Indeed, the Nazis encouraged such feelings... Along with the Allies in their wartime propaganda. But that is not what it means. It is not saying "Germany should rule over all" or "Germany is better than all" or "German people are better than others". That is not at all what it means and could scarcely be further from the truth. Deutschlandlied is a song of unity, peace, and brotherhood from the very first stanza. It is important to understand its origins: It was written in 1841, some thirty years prior to the unification of the German Empire under Prussian auspices, and nearly a hundred before the Nazis came to power. It was written as a liberal, democratic, progressive song for the Vormärz movement, who sought unity of the disparate German states.
     
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    So you believe walling ourselves in like a former Soviet satellite displays the best of what it is to be American?

    Of course you do.
     
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    We tried to convince the bigoted left wing that Obama was associating with anti-white people and that he was anti-law enforcement. Also that Obama loved his drones too much and was expanding Bush's drone program. Did the left wing listen? Of course not.

    Where was your thread back then?
     
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    A wall is a wall. It does not matter which side of the wall you are on it performs the same function. It keeps you from getting to the other side. It seals us in.

    That's not Orwellian. Claiming the wall does not do what a wall does is Orwellian.
     
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    Hyperbole much? Your attachment to it is quite exhausting to follow, it like watching a day of the LMN channel :(
     
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    Let me check on Canada's plans to build a wall....Sorry, not the same.

    To wall ourselves in is UNAMERICAN.
     
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    How is homeland security un-American? A wall violates nothing. If anything, it's encouragement to follow the law. Why do you support illegal immigration and not legal immigration?
     
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    Explain the functional difference between the Berlin Wall and Trump's Wall. Not what "they" say but the functional real life difference.

    I'll help. The difference starts and ends with one word. "NONE"

    Walling ourselves in like a Soviet Satellite is UNAMERICAN.
     
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    I'm sure while they were building the Berlin Wall they were telling the people it was to protect them from the evils of the west.

    Propaganda works on fools.
     
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    You realize we already have walls, right? And have for quite some time?
     
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    It's funny watching the collective and their drones attack Trump for the same stuff they defended The Obama for. There is even a thread about Trump playing golf to much. 0 credibility.
     
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    Your comprehension is clouded by your overly dramatic nature! All I posted was Canada doesn't allow free reign and a link to one of their qualification questionnaires, maybe slow down and let logic seep in before you pounce!
     
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    I think the funniest part is, they don't try and stick up for Obama when you bring up these drone attacks or anything like that. They just flat out ignore it.
     
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    Leftist want to continue the flow of unchecked/unregulated people coming and going as long as possible. Then they tell them how racist and evil "white people" are and to fight for your rights. It's all part of tearing America down and fundamentally transforming it into a global socialist police state or Utopia.
     
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    Well like I say, logic before the pounce :) East Germany had to stop internal migration to the west or risk skilled labor and economic disaster! Also you assume the west were against the wall when in fact they were just as concerned with the immigration in to their country and the flip side of the coin, over laboralization and risk to their economy.
     
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    That's because The Obama can do no wrong. They also cheered when he gave Palestine 221 million bucks on his way out the door. It's obvious who the left puts first, and it's not America.
     
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