Would Trump have won without Russia's help?

Trump won for one reason and one reason alone:
The DNC short-circuited the primary process and nominated Hillary Clinton, the only person Trump could beat.

 

It's a simple question. You remember how all the establishment worshipers were all running around saying Hillary was gunna lose because of the Russians before the election?

And it didn't matter because Trump would of won anyways. Hillary couldn't fill a high school gym. The only people who buy this Russia BS are the same ones who where running around making threads like "how will you celebrate Hillarys victory"

Maybe because the RNC isn't a corrupt hell hole infested with Jon pedophile Podestas, Anthony sext little girls Wiener, or Bill rape/flash my junk Clintons. I imagine the RNC emails would be boring and nobody would care.

 

They rigged it and cheated. Even after being caught, the establishment worshipers still worship them because they are just as vile, deceitful, and corrupt and would of done the same in their shoes.

 

Yes, though I am skeptical Russia helped him much if at all. The obamacare hikes across the states that unexpectedly swung to him, Hillary's wobbly knees, etc.

.....and I didn't vote for him. I am just a realist.

 

And we are supposed to believe the nation would be better off with them in charge.

 

No ones asking whether or not HRC would have won, if not for the DNC's conduct? Did Putin influence Comeys press releases as well?

 

I was a Cruz guy, but I never saw Trump as this devil the left paints him do be. They do that to anyone that disagrees with them. If Russia hacked the DNC, released their emails, why did that hurt Hillary? Isn't everything at the DNC great with guys like Jon (I like giant paintings of little kids in their underwear chained to walls) Podesta running the show? The emails should show how great these people are and help Hillary. So I think the Russians actually helped her by showing everyone how clean and pure the DNC is

 

SHHHH

 

The Truth is the enemy of the left.

 

I voted for Bernie then Jill, so she was toxic to me out of the gates. All this Russian conspiracy stuff is just their free-floating angst thinking it was the email controversy that was her undoing. She ran a crappy campaign that was run by crappy people. Hell, 2/3rd's of the anti-trump ads she ran that I saw looked like they had been created by Trump until you got to the candidate approval tag. She was putting on blast all the anti-immigrant/pro-wall one-liners Trump was using to rally support.

 

Funny how not 1 McCarthy-ite establishment worshiper voted that Trump needed Russia's help to win

 

I remember, they had clips of Trump and I'd be like ya... ya... oh... this is a Hillary ad...

 

I remember once seeing a block of ads that were Hillary Trump Hillary Trump and they all seemed like Trump ads with Hillary's voice thrown in there. It was funny.

 

Russia made Anthony Wiener sext little girls and that's when we found another 600,000 emails so the FBI had no choice but to investigate.... Dang it Putin... LOL

 

Yep. That's your blind spot. You think that Russian interference is to blame for the DNC's stupid problems and that's the only reason the problem exists... I think the DNC's problems are totally systemic; I think they have no leaders, no ideas, no cohesion, and no message. I think Hillary lost because she was a super-flawed candidate who took swaths of the population for granted. I also think that Russia's involvement is deeper than you're giving it credit for. It's not about the DNC. They ultimately don't care about that. They care about destabilization and disempowerment of the United States. THIS is what interests the various agencies. You guys are being incredibly myopic about this.

 

This sort of **** is just so awesome.

You ought to support an independent inquiry into Russian involvement then? Right? Let's get it out in the light of day. Same with Trump's tax returns? You guys say stuff like this but seem unwilling to hold Trump accountable for his own words. How can you live with such cognitive dissonance? Oh yeah it's an anonymous message board so it doesn't matter at all. That part I get.

 

Considering the fact that the DNC would not let the FBI have access to their computer system basically exposed the whole situation as a rouse.
The FBI could have obtained a warrant if there were serious indications that a foreign power had breached their computer system.

And then there is common sense.

The premise that the Russians were able to overshadow the combined efforts of CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, BBC, Yahoo, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, Salon, Huffington, etc... is pretty hard to swallow.
And not to mention the combined efforts of MoveOn, Soros, the Hedge Fund Lobby, and many many others.

So the question becomes... A or B ???

A. Those who are dumber than dirt and believe the fare fetched, "Russian BS."

B. Those who know better but are just following the Alinsky inspired liberal mantra to just repeat what the party bosses are telling you to repeat as often as possible.

 

What an absolutely ridiculous statement. With the closeness of the vote in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Florida, anything could have swung the election. Trump was in dire straights after his piss-poor performance in the debates. The last minute barrage of 4-letter e-mails, targeting Clinton and Obama, might have been just the medicine he needed.

 

And pray tell exactly what did these leaked emails reveal, that would have theoretically helped Donald Trump be elected president of the united states?

 

Wasn't the fact that Donna Brazile provided Clinton the debate questions the subject of those emails?

 

Considering the close nature of the election it is likely the interference did indeed effect HillBill negatively. Also knowing she had more popular votes it would have changed the electoral outcome.

 

Really, they did? Do tell

 

I thought everyone loved Hillary? Texas was in play? What happened?

 

It's quite similar to the Whitewater controversy in the Clinton era and President Clinton's ties to the Whitewater Development Corporation, a failed business venture in the 1970s and 1980s, had never been proved. The Democrats are happy to undermine the Trump presidency by casting doubt on the legitimacy of the administration.

 

That's what we're hoping to find out. Obviously the effect of a barrage of inflammatory, four-letter e-mails probably can't be measured. I can say, first-hand, that I received some of these in the three or four days preceding the election.