Muslims are hesitant to criticize other Muslims because Allah will punish them if they do

Now you're just getting silly.

 

You are the height of vanity if you think that you are better than I am at determining which of the thousands and thousands of gods on offer is the one true god, vanityofvanities, without having any court-room level of evidence, my friend.

 

Are YOU "perfectly fine with those others (non-believers) getting brutally, savagely, barbarically TORTURED (for 99.999999+% of their total existence, counting the "afterlife") - just for being "other"!

Are you? Or do you condemn god/Jesus for their barbaric ways?

 

That's because you're not a Modern Secular Humanist.
Let me show you how.

 

So you condemn Jesus for saying that, as well?

 

By the way, you conveniently avoided this question, so I'll try one more time: "So you're against parents being ok with stabbing their children, apparently? So you, like me, condemn Christians/Jews for being ok with Abraham (the father of their religions) for being willing to do that same thing to his own son because he heard voices in his head? Can we at least agree on that, my friend?"

 

"We hate religion!!!!!"

*Starts religion*

Derp

 

Please do keep in mind that I'm more ethical than you are (no offense) because you won't condemn the invisible friend in the sky for killing virtually the innocent animals in his "flood". If, say, Hitler did that, then you'd be completely outraged - but I assume that you have illogical morals, so you can't bring yourself to do that - but hopefully I'm wrong about that.

Have a great day.

 

Sounds like Judaism to me. Don't they also suck the penises of their newborns? Sounds like a ****ed-up religion to me in all honesty. But yeah I'm not a Jew but thanks for asking.

 

A belief system is not necessarily a "religion", my friend.

"Religions" almost always have unscientific things in them - so people have to go on "faith", since the founders don't have FACTS (that's because they just made up the religion to gain power over people.) One example is in Q8:41 Mohammad said to give a certain percentage of the plundered booty to, you guessed it, TO MOHAMMAD!
Jesus was also tired of being a carpenter, which was real hard work back then - it's better if people "worship" you and put you up and feed you. He couldn't present a court-room level of evidence (hearsay is not evidence, of course) because he was just making that s*** up.

 

I'm glad to hear that you don't believe in the OT stuff.
Christians also believe in the OT, of course (Bibles have the OT, of course), so Christians believe it's ok to want to kill your children if you hear voices in your head, like Abraham did. If they disagree with that then they'd leave the religion.

 

We "hate" harmful belief systems. We don't hate the people.

 

The ones that need help are the ones that give their impressionable children a "best book of all time" that says to kill gays and through the geneologies believes that the earth is only about 6000 years old. They. Need. Help.

 

If you're going to bash Christianity at least understand it. The Jew died on the cross so that we no longer have to follow the Jews' rules anymore.

 

No, Jesus approved of the old laws in Mt 5:17, and they haven't change the part of the Bible that says that "god never changes."

 

It takes more than moral courage to alter a "sacred" religious text. It takes a convincing new "prophet" to pull that off

 

It's not "bashing" if you offer more ethical alternatives to something - such as it's not "bashing" Nazism if we propose Western Democracy as an alternative.

 

So what now you're calling me a Jew?

 

To change barbaric texts takes the strong desire to do the right thing. Christians/Muslims/Jews lack that strong desire to do the right thing.

 

No, just saying that Jesus approved of the OT. So therefore Jesus was immoral. He accepted slavery, so of course Jesus was immoral. http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/slavery/

 

Historically and geographically, you can make an argument that they are practically one and the same. The same could be said of Judaism, an ethnic tribal and regional religion that still lays claim to "Israel" to this day. However, there are Muslims and Jews who are now removed from that mix, who are part of other countries and maintain the religion and various customs while also being a part of those countries and their cultures.

 

You do not have the first clue or idea about Jesus’ ways. NONE. So spare me your telling me about God’s barbaric ways.

Secondly, did you have to take 5 separate posts to respond to my one? Can you not control your excitement and indignation and do this properly? I am a bit preoccupied presently but I will be glad to indulge you when I can.

 

I'll grant you that! But I think what they fear more than Allah is those dudes with long beards, bats, rocks and machetes

 

The right thing is tossing it all out and embracing atheism, but oh well. It's a slow process. I don't care if the religious texts remain barbaric as long as people are willing to rise above the worst parts of them in how they think and act, and this many do without giving up the religion. Fair enough, I say.

 

You're not a Jew, but if you can't bring yourself to say this prayer, when asked, then you likely hate Jews (Modern Secular Humanists love Jews.) Can you say this prayer, RA? "Jesus, I love Jews so much that I beg you to please change your ways and let ethical Jews into heaven and avoid hell. If it were up to me I'd let them in."

I believe in you - you can do this.