I have no problem with Islam. I just think Muhammad himself was probably a crazy conman.

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  1. Daniel Lebaron Bingham

    Daniel Lebaron Bingham New Member

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    Religions evolve over time and become different things. Islam if used correctly is as valid a religion as any other. But Muhammad was a war mongering jerk with tons of wives. Sounds like every psychopathic cult leader I've ever heard of. Am I crazy?
     
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    The problem I have with Islam is that the title of your thread alone is enough to get you marked for assassination.
     
  3. Daniel Lebaron Bingham

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    Yeah, well I think I'm gonna be okay.
     
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    Well then I guess you win the "missing the point" award for today!
     
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    This sounds racist. What's wrong with Islam?
     
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    I literally said I have no problem with the religion. I just think that the historical Muhammed was probably a crazy person. From what I've read thats how he sounds.
     
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    All religions are cons.
    Religion is the biggest and oldest scam going.
     
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    I don't agree with that at all. Religion is what you make of it. I think Jesus sounds like a cool dude and Muhammad sounds like an ancient Charles Manson. Just my opinion.
     
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    The god of the old testament....which is the Christian god....sounds like a homicidal maniac
     
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    But your opinion is based more on geography than anything else. If you were born in Pakistan, you would have a completely different perspective. It does not make one better than the other.
     
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    The worship of any sky wizard with no proof is sad.
     
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    No, you are incorrect. I base my opinion on what I've read about both men. Again not saying one religion is better than the other. Just saying Jesus as a person from what I can perceive seems like an okay dude. Muhammad seems like a psychotic conman akin t most cult leaders you see anywhere.
     
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    I need to ask a question.

    Why is that your view; what specific parts of their lives make you come to that conclusion?

    I am genuinely interested in your answer.
     
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    I'm not a religious scholar. But I spent half of every Sunday in a Lutheran church until high school and I briefly studied Islam at the graduate level in college.

    The only thing I know for sure is that Jesus Christ was a better person and had a better message than Muhammad.
     
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    As I asked the previous commentor what specifically about them makes you come to that view?
     
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    Well, Jesus didn't advocate military conflict and killing. And he didn't sleep with 8 year old girls.

    As far as we know, he was celibate and he preached about peace, love, and helping the poor, etc.
     
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    Race was not even mentioned..
    You sound racist implying race..
     
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    Jesus was a strict pacifist and of no interest in government.

    Muhammed was a sociopathic mass murderer and pedophile rapists who declared a war and terror based religious government with laws and rules of behavior designed on his extremely sadistic psychosis.
     
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    All religious leaders are conmen.
     
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    A false and ignorant message. The God of Islam, Judaism and Christianity are the same. But given your generally posting messages of hatred of Christians, you purposefully left Islam and Judaism off the list to again attack Christianity.

    More significantly, the God of the New Testament, ie Christianity, was not a homicidal maniac as a new "deal" was made with humans via Jesus. Simple, it was the God of both Islam and Judaism that was the homicidal maniac. Haven't you posted dozens of times that you are Jewish?
     
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    Don't know if it's been mentioned, but The Big 3 coming out of Abraham, all came off the same really.
     
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    I would consider myself to be anti-religious rather than anti-christian.

    I have no problem with specific people who believe but I believe that belief in a deity is a desperate attempt to avoid the inevitability of death and that in many cases people use that belief to tell me how to live my life. Furthermore, religious organisations have sheltered child abusers for decades; if this were to happen if a liberal institution conservatives would riot yet we hear nothing from them on the matter.

    If stating my honest opinion makes me a troll than so be it.
     
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    If that's so, then why are you defending islam trough deflection?
     
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    Racist?
    Islam is not a race (well, exept the race to take over the world). Or is it?
     
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    I was actually genuinely interested in their answers.

    What was said about Muhammad was true; I do wonder, however, if they would apply the same standards to the people of their own religion that could also be accurately described as such. My guess is no and that hypocrisy is one of the many problems I have with all religion.
     

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