Five-year-old girl is suspended from kindergarten because she 'played with a stick which looked like

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  1. rover77

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    • ' Caitlin Miller, 5, of Hoke County North Carolina was suspended from school
    • The youngster picked up a stick and pointed it at her friend as if it was a gun
    • The school photographed the stick and sent a copy of the image to her mother
    • Brandy Miller said it was unfair to send her daughter home over such an issue '

    Unfair?...How about ridiculous? And the thought that the they are patting themselves on the back ,claiming they are keeping children safe makes me ill.

    Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4361288/Girl-5-suspended-school-playing-stick.html
     
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    The only way to stop a bad guy with a stick is with a good guy with a stick. LOL
     
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    She was in a no-stick zone. She got what she deserved.
     
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    Kids have been punished for pointing with a finger and saying

    "BANG !"
     
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    This is not about keeping children safe. No one gets hurt with a stick shaped like a gun.
    This is about the long term view of the left. AG Holder is on record talking about "brain washing" young Americans. They want to stigmatize gun ownership, and shame people into believing that "guns are always bad" and no one should own one or think about owning one. There is no better place to indoctrinate youngsters that through our academic system.
     
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    Just more proof of the insanity of public education and gun banners.

    These events have become so absurd they turn the public education establishment into a joke, and the gun banner crowd into fellow clowns.

    Public education is doomed, its just a matter of time before people tear it apart.
     
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    Yeah....public education is INSANE. lol
     
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    Probably one of the few things we might agree on....
     
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    Yes, there was a young man in my 5th grade class, Ralph Lesley, left back twice, a bit "slow" he was quite violent and wrote an anonymous note to the teacher, threatening to kill her.

    I saw him write the note, however, I advised the teacher to compare known handwriting samples from everyone, then pulled out his and showed proof that Ralph had written the note, he confessed.

    He was sent to reform school.
     
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    “The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.”
    Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
     
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    Could the school have been preempting litigation in case someone had been injured with the stick?
     
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    Looks like you're inflicted with the health-and-safety neurosis too. We've had it for years; in fact health and safety in the UK has become a thriving and ever-expanding industry - indeed, a bureaucrats' heaven, where they can hold their 'meetings' :roll: and compete for first prize as to who can dream up the most ridiculous H&S regulation so far. There's no doubt that the West has lost the bloody plot!
     
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    Is there a very litigious atmosphere in England too?
     
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    No, it's just non-productive, pen-pushing, empire-building bureaucrats chucking their weight around. I once had occasion to remind some pompous jobsworth on my local council that ' . . . you're a servant of the public, not its master.'
     
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    When Government embarks on an Insane and impossible dream of insuring everyones safety by passing ridiculous Laws, You can be sure that Government will soon be Guilty of sacrificing freedom for a false sense of security and end up with neither.

    Example; the ban on pointy kitchen knives in U.K. to keep everyone safe !




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    Doctors say knives are too pointed
    A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.
    A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

    They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

    The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

    The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

    They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

    None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

    The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

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    Kitchen knives can inflict appalling wounds
    In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

    The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

    The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

    French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

    A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

    The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

    "The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

    "We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

    Government response

    Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

    "The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

    "Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

    "An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

    "The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

    A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."


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    Kids should immediately report every stick found on the playground as a weapon, and demand the principal remove it, you know, for safety.
     
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    Ban icecream on a stick, corndogs too.
    No more shiskabob.
     
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    Oh, and don't forget "pop tart gun"!
     
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    Don't forget about unauthorized stick factories on campus.

    DOWN WITH TREES!!!!!
     
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    Fear of objects, Guns, knives etc..., makes no sense, it is indicative of a lack of wisdom.

    We should have a healthy fear of things realizing their utility, safety first.
    However, not using fire because we could get burned makes no sense.
     
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    MY MY we have touched upon why the gun ban movement is sooo stupid. Good points all!
     
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    When Gun Ban fools punish children for playing with sticks and fingers, you know something is very wrong.
     
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    Indoctrinate, intimidate and imprint left think in the children the fear of spiders, snakes, and guns...oh my. Waiting for the child's books.
     
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    When I was a child, they had fake cigarettes for sale, they had a powder in them and you looked like you were really smoking.

    I got into lots of trouble and later the fakes were banned.

    Those fakes were not harmful yet feel good legislation passed as well as Bans against candy that many claimed were portals to real Drugs, remember Pop Rocks ?
     
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    I was one of the kids that in the US you didn't want your kids to know. We made functional weapons... sometimes somebody go hurt... that was considered childhood.
    Then too, we took of on our bicycles and roamed the country, gone for an entire day. We didn't miss school classes, however, you never wanted to be interrogated and punished by the nuns. Grievous sins were attended to on Tuesday's by the priest on duty that week for punishment... the punishment instrument; a Hurley stick to the back of the bare legs. Infractions were noted by giving you a red slip with a number of strokes and marked in a book. On Tuesday you handed the slips to the priest and if what you handed in didn't jive with the book, 5 strokes and after conferring with your teachers you still got yours, but they would always pad extra for good measure. Strangely, fighting was punished far less than many infractions like swearing or back talking a nun. Fights by boys were stopped and rescheduled with supervision and an audience in back of the church with gloves on Wednesday's, a sort of after school PE. Weapons, if found were confiscated and punishment assigned, usually cleaning johns, classrooms or the church for a few weeks... or in my case when caught with a zip gun I was forced into alterboy servitude.
    With the slips, you always knew what was coming. Then, you lined up on Tuesdays and could hear the stokes on others before you took yours... a sort of psychological Punishment. For some of us, the more whack you could endure without sound and still walk down the line when it was done, you sort of had a higher status among the lads.
    We built all sorts of weapons, from zip guns to bombs supplemented with bows and arrows, to pellet guns, and more. Nope, we were he bad ones your parents warned you about... yet I count lawyers, physicians, public servants, and even a couple priests from my class and age bracket from that school... not a single violent criminal.
     

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