two categories of liberals

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  1. VietVet

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    I'm thinking Stepford Wife....
     
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    "Builds a pipeline". I referred to oil spills. But ok, I also mentioned legally dumping coal ash into rivers. Litter doesn't poison the ground and water usually, and is easily cleaned up, so it can't be compared to what I referenced. and yes, it is all bad.
     
  3. Sanskrit

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    There are two kinds of "collectivist-statists" in the US (calling these scum "liberals" is an insult to thousands of years of human progress in the social, human rights and governing arenas):

    1. Knowing, purposeful members of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex (together with members of its genetically inferior, morally weak, perpetually dependent underclass "vote farms") seeking to use the involuntary fiat and redistributive powers of an overlarge, overpowered, illicit central government to better their lives violently at the expense of their neighbors in the private sector (who are, by way of stark contrast, seeking to better their lives via voluntary transactions in voluntary markets), and

    2. Useful idiots fooled by the various forms of dishonest window dressing used by "1" to hide its actual goals, with the expected result of -rationalizing- their violent self interest, limitless greed, and lust for power in the guise of fake "social causes" and "paper tiger" struggles of identity politics.

    Yep, it's that simple.
     
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  4. Brewskier

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    I've talked about this quite a bit. There will never be a point where they rest on their laurels and say "that's enough". Their entire ideology is based around revolution, so they will always be at war with the status quo, even when the status quo is comprised of things they have already advocated for and successfully implemented. Nobody ever believed that gay rights were the end of the line for them. They got those, and then immediately started pushing for transgendered men to share a bathroom with preteen girls. They didn't pause for even a second, they continued their activism right into the next controversial issue, as they've always done. This type of mindset is why I predict that it will not be long before they start advocating for the rights of children to decide who they are in love with, regardless of age and other factors.
     
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    I agree that pedo rights are on their menu, but they seemed to have had a set back recently when Salon had to delete it's pro pedophile articles. But it will be back, or something even more revolting and stupid will be.
     
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    We all know you righties will invent any sort of fantasy about the left to do all you can to vilify, demean, insult, and condemn them since invalidating their arguments is so dreadfully difficult. But that's ok. There is going to be a sweep of righties/republicans in congress soon to be followed by the executive branch two years later. People are DONE with the rightie crap.
     
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    Funny you say this, when, virtually in their entirety, arguments from the left derive from fallacious appeals to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.

    Tell us about Hillary's landslide victory in 2016.
     
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  8. Swedish Alicia

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    As per the trash conversation; In my country if you don't take your trash with you after the protest is over you're considered an outcast and you're not welcomed at anymore protests. To have an environmental protest and mess up the environment in the process is very hypocritical.

    I can't comment on the OP because I'm not familiar with 60's America other than what I have watched on the old American television shows we get in Sweden. I can't believe your country has so many people considering all the married couples back then slept in separate beds :)
     
  9. Brewskier

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    Invent? I'm not inventing anything. Ever wonder why NAMBLA has so many socialist/communist members like Harry Hay and Allen Ginsberg? Because my theory gives a consistent answer to this question.
     
  10. Sanskrit

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    Like your country, one side of our political system imports dependent voters for its side via flouting our immigration laws.

    Also like your country, some of that effort results in rape, another way that the left apparently likes to increase its voter base given recent current events.
     
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  11. US Conservative

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    Heres one thats new to me... transracialism. Apparently people are now whatever race they identify as.

    IIRC, that idea was stifled in the past because authentic minorities did not want to lose their special status. But now white lefties can get those benefits by saying they believe they are. Gonna be interesting to see if it gains traction, and how actual minorities react.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video...ies-as-trans-black/vi-BByWxHe?ocid=spartanntp
     
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    Yes, as someone else said, this is too simplistic, and IMO, just a bit too infantile, and I say that in all kindness.

    But there are at least 2 kinds of liberals. There is my kind, which is more classic liberalism, but with some FDR Progressivism mixed in, which we used to see quite a bit of, but isn't prevalent today. Then there is what I call faux liberalism which is what you see today. The rulers of these people are neoliberal neocons, banking and corporate owned globalists. Hillary is representative of this.
     
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    There are two classes of lefties-the "sheep" who desperately want relevance and to be part of a movement-those are the pork bellies with guns in Arizona. They think they are doing a good thing.

    And the wolves-who are actually fighting a war against America (and any other place hostile to leftism), who use the sheep as pawns. They are the ones who see how far they can push the sheep-and who would not think twice about shooting them to get headlines (police fire on armed protestors, etc-everything is a propaganda war). These were the lefty terrorists of the 60's and 70's, and the ones they inspired. They recruit from the sheep.

    IMO, liberal is no longer an appropriate label as even the moderates/mainstream have come out against liberal principles like free speech.

    Those classical liberals have been marginalized and are leaving this mass of lefties.
     
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    Liberals and conservatives are equally liberal with the legal use of force, government. Liberal and conservative here today represent two opposing sets of personal convictions. Therefore, the two types of liberals are those who would and those who would not have their personal convictions imposed upon their equals by force of law. The same is true of conservatives. The political spectrum does not run from liberal to conservative; it runs from authoritarian to libertarian.

    AUTHORITARIAN-LIBERAL
    or
    LIBERTARIAN-LIBERAL
     
  15. US Conservative

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    Liberal is a misnomer to the left,your statement has holes.
     
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    Gotta luv the partisan stereotyping and overuse of mostly inaccurate bumper stickers they spout as "knowledge".

    Its righties hating lefties and lefties hating righties for reasons that have more to do with their own caricatures of the other than with any meaningful discussion of actual policies and issues.
     
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    All statements have holes, including this one.

    Liberal and conservative represent opposing personal convictions. Authoritarian and libertarian are opposing political positions.

    With what are liberals liberal? With what are conservatives conservative? They are equally liberal with the legal use of force (government).
     
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    I think both groups are the same. You've got your old hippies who never got the memo that hippies were stupid to begin with, and the new variation that only knows the highly edited version of being a hippie from the old hippies. They kinda gloss over the bit about most of those hippies either ending up as bald headed hare krishnas in airports, or living in some commune in los angeles spray painting Beatles song titles on walls. They hear about hendrix at woodstock, but they never hear about the stones at altamont.
     
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    I was thinking of that classic movie 'Dumb and Dumber'
     
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    So that's why you never present an intelligent gun control argument.
     
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    all the Conservatives I know are either willfully ignorant or bigoted.

    just sayin'
     
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    Is that your best? That is pathetic! I feel sorry for you. Lol
     

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