Most Americans Say FBI Investigation Of Trump-Russia Ties Is Necessary

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  1. Ninian

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    They pretty much get compensated by tax money from our budget anyway... So basically they evidently for past two years damage average RF citizens, instead of government. Helped 'Russia United' to win parlamental elections.. ...basically in RF government and corporations only benefitted from them, while minor business collapses. We got five or seven non-corporate various local stores closed in past two years, including the 'Ocean' supermarket that has been there since town's foundation in 1958. Now building got bought by 'X5 Retail Group' and replaced with one of the 'Perekrestok' stores - third in vicinity on my home. Now instead of best fresh - alive included - fish in city and a fantstic bakery we got a store with price tags where written prices for 250, 130, 540 gramms of product - instead of normal 1000 gramm tags used in country - with apathetic personnel and with, evidently, violations of sanitarian norms - that got this store closed three times already - it keeps reopening. Bleh.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X5_Retail_Group
     
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    They need money to pay off Sochi 2014..lol.
     
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    A poll by the Soros' owned Huffington Post? You gotta be kidding!
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    It's amazing that you can hear all the Trump lies. Hear all the inconsistencies and alternative truths concerning the Russian meddling, and then write a deflection argument. :bonk:
     
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    Senate Intelligence Committee Leaders Vow Thorough Russian Investigation

    WASHINGTON — Senators leading the investigation into Russian interference in the November election pledged on Wednesday to conduct an aggressive inquiry, including an examination of any ties to President Trump, as they sought to distance themselves from the flagging efforts in the House.

    In a conspicuous show of bipartisanship during a fractious time at the Capitol, the top Republican and Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee vowed to forge ahead by interviewing key players connected to Mr. Trump and pressing intelligence agencies to provide all relevant information."
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/...ee-burr-warner-russia-investigation.html?_r=0
     
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    It's mostly about election interference. I seriously don't see how Russia got people to vote Trump.
    Leaked emails that lead an FBI investigation into Clinton that "may" have swayed voters to vote Trump (I don't believe that it would - they were already voting Trump but didn't say it out loud) doesn't cut it for me. The emails, regardless of who leaked them, were "real".

    The amount of BS that comes from millions spent in campaigns is the real problem in elections.
     
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    There is a lot of lying going on in this issue but it is yet to be determined who is doing it. If there was illegal wiretapping going on it wouldn't do to ask the guilty parties if they did it and expect them to just "Aw shucks, you got me."
     
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    sorry have you seen the most brutal in history , Troll (Olgino) /media.ru attack on Obama, Clinton and Democratic party? how could you miss it?
     
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    Guessed I missed it. I don't pay much attention to Russian forum puppets, verified or otherwise. And I don't think most citizens of the US do either.
     
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    So based off knowing this one guy was a part of Russia's spy ring, they 'verified' that Steele's information was trustworthy? ROFL LMFAO. This report actually damns the intelligence community for what we think of them. This is too cute, well it's actually embarrassing. But it's cute.

    US Politics has officially gone insane. The claim that not only did Russia 'hack' the Emails, but collaborated specifically to target 'right-wing voters'. Lol. I think we can now officially call it a Conspiracy. A Conspiracy of the most doubtful order.
     
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    Thanks. I laughed myself. Too funny.
     
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    FYI, Republicans had to listen to Democrats whine from 2000 to 2008. We've been through this routine before.

    Since I've been a member of this forum since 2008, let me clue you in on something, Frank. The Republicans here were more than willing to acknowledge the shortcomings of their party and candidates that got them into the same position that Democrats find themselves in today. That's why the GOP controls both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue right now.

    However, we are once again being reminded that introspection is not a "progressive" trait. The Democrats who are willing to acknowledge the shortcomings of their party and candidates are few and far between, and the ones who are willing to confront and correct those problems don't belong to the lunatic "progressive" fringe that has taken over the DP.

    Personally, I hope Democrats continue to cling to the myth of their own infallibility and blame everyone but themselves for their current plight. The longer they stumble and grumble through the political wilderness the better off America will be. Today's "progressives" need to meet the same fate as Henry Wallace's "progressives" who tried to take over the Democratic party in the 1940s.
     
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  14. Frank

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    I am not a Democrat, so I will not comment for them. But for myself...I suggest comments like...

    ...tells me you are part of the group of which I spoke.
     
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    Like I said, introspection is not a "progressive" trait.

    Actually, I'm part of the Right that I talked about. Unlike the DP and its supporters, I blamed the shortcomings of the GOP and its bad candidates for their fall from grace in 2008. Just like Democrats today, Republicans got arrogant, complacent and unresponsive after 8 years in power and took the support of the American people for granted. To make matters worse, they ran horrible candidates for president who ran weak campaigns and wound up losing their elections.

    We'll see if Democrats have learned their lesson and will change course. Right now all the excuses and scapegoating I'm seeing doesn't suggest that they have and they will.
     
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    I understand what you are saying, Talon...sorta like I think "intelligence" is not an American conservative trait.



    Maybe they won't; maybe they will.

    I'm hoping both parties make adjustments that will save us from what we have right now.
     
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    Tecoyah...I don't know what set you off...but get control.

    The entire of your post was a piece of trash.
     
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    It was a joke intended to ridicule Trump supporters and their blind adherence to his highness.
     
  19. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, Tec.

    I missed your point...and thought you were angry with something I said to Talon.

    My bad.
     
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    Hey guys, Donald Trump won the election because he appealed to the American people. ..and one of his promises was to better relations with Russia so as to avoid war. Just because the Democrats lie and cheat doesn't mean Trump won because he's an even bigger liar and hypocrite... or that Russian interference helped him win. What it means is that most Americans could see through the lies of the Democrats. ..and were sick and tired of it.

    Now they are trying to obstruct Trump's appointees in Congress so he can't go ahead and keep his promises. They don't have the votes to stop them from taking office, so they are taking their time before bringing them up for a vote... This way the criminal foreign policies of Obama will continue.

    It's a one man battle against a very evil and corrupt 'deep state', where all the self serving corporate entities are in cohesion with one another. They are freaking out because Donald Trump is destroying their planned agendas of an 'elite' corporate control of a world government.

    The war mongers who hate Russia for their own personal reasons, and who would like nothing better than to see them in a war with Eastern Europe... are those who will profit the most from a military build up. These are the people behind the false narrative that Russia is evil and aggressive... as well as the narrative that this 'evil and aggressive' Putin was behind Trump getting elected.

    Their lies and stupidities is making us all sick, and the MSM is going broke because of them... So the question becomes, who is supporting them? It might be the CIA like in Germany or Soros and his globalist ilk which is also part of the 'deep state'. What they're doing is risking a civil war, something they prefer to having Trump ruin their one world government agenda. If a civil war does happen, they will blame Vladimir Putin... of course.

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    And anyone who criticizes Democrats for their excuse-making and scapegoating is "blindly adhering to his highness". :roll:

    I didn't know that flying off a cliff and then shooting yourself in the foot qualified as "ridicule". I guess I learned something new today...
     
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    Obviously the entire Trump/Russian connection is worthy of 9/11 Commission style investigation.

    Every lead must be run down and thoroughly investigated.

    If at the end, there is "no there, there" (and Trump and his associates are thoroughly exonerated), I would have no problem with a thorough examination of any relevant information involving the Democrats.

    But, obviously, the Trump/Russia investigation must be given urgent priority because it involves the sitting government of the United States.
     
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    Some facts:
    All our intelligence agencies say the Russians hacked the DNC and gave the data to Wikileaks.
    Kushner, Carter Page, Sessions, Manafort, Flynn - and who knows how many others - all deeply involved in the Trump campaign met with the Russians during the campaign - several, like Flynn, Sessions, Page - lied and said they hadn't met, then, after proof of a meeting was revealed, said it was innocent - so why Lie???

    END of facts.
    Logical assumptions pointed to by (for now) circumstantial evidence:
    The Russians also hacked the RNC, and via the meetings we know took place, gave Trump a choice - promise to go easy on us or we'll release GOP dirt to Wikileaks
    AND - there are billions to be made dealing with the Russians - how amazing is it that Tillerson - Russian medal-winner - who Trump had never met, gets Secretary of State. Sleazes like Manafort, Kushner & Flynn would kill for money - and there is LOTS of money to be had plundering Russian resources with Putin.

    The GOP doesn't want an investigation because one or both of the assumptions will be proven true. Nunes blocking an investigation is so obvious. Why else would he block an investigation except to prevent the truth from getting out?

    The stench of corruption is getting overpowering.
     
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    Indeed the "Russia thing is a joke" - Putin is laughing his ass off - and he doesn't laugh a lot.
     
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    Most Americans couldn't care less about a theoretical Russian/Trump tie. The public's head is already spinning due to all of the accusations and threats from the left and the right, lawsuits flying like errant foul balls. Most Americans are tired of the games people play in Washington DC and are concerned about something that is important to them; their day to day lives.
     

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