Blackwater founder held secret Seychelles meeting to establish Trump-Putin back channel

Still can't comprehend? Where in the article did it state that was the purpose of the meeting other than conjecture?

 

You forgot Benghazi, and the War on Christmas...

 

Um no we dont. I can't wait to see if she broke the law.

You are complaining about a meeting that might have been held well after the election. How does this help your tin foil hat conspiracy theory about collusion between Trump and Russia before the election?

 

Trump told Nato countries to pay their way, correct?
In Sweden we're spending more and thinking of joining NATO because Russia is threatening our country.

 

Trump knows who our enemies are...and seeks to project STRENGTH, instead of the ankle-grabbing of Obama....

 

Yes I believe you recently had the reintroduction of compulsory military service due to the threat from Russia.

Trump reluctantly support NATO because Putin is whispering in his ear but the NATO countries understand Russia better than America ever will.

 

WHAT HORSE MANURE.

Talk about revisionist history.
Did you make that up or copy from some conspiracy site?
It has no factual basis - except the Japanese embargo.

 

Nope, has to be fake. They couldn't meet in the Seychelles, Obama had that place wiretapped.

 

Somebody needs to tell Schiff about this right away!

Schiff: Still no 'definitive' link between Russia, Trump campaign

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...itive-link-between-russia-trump-campaign.html

 

Which means Schiff lied:

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...ence-of-trump-collusion-with-russia-more-than

Oh look a Democrat telling lies. Pull my other leg, it's wiretapped.

 

I hear you Donald!

 

By the time this tangled web is unraveled some of the players will have died of old age. This Trump/Russian/Oligarch connection runs deep and wide.

 

You over your boy Bernie getting whacked in the primaries? Too bad he won't be running for POTUS ever again. Boo-hoo.

 

The United States was seeing double digit GDP growth starting in 1941, you don't know what you're talking about. Double digit.

You claimed that we would've been better off if we hadn't joined WWII, and then pointed to us being bombed as evidence that we would've been better. Us sanctioning Japan isn't joining WWII. We joined WWII because we were attacked. Even non-interventionists like myself think that we should go to war if we're attacked by another nation. Apparently you think we should've allowed half of our fleet to be blown up and ran away from Hawaii with our tails between our legs.

The Pacific Hemisphere is in our sphere of interest, but Europe isn't? Erm, okay.

 

Let me save libby's the trouble....

Fake news you to INFINITY

 

Make what up? That we got involved in the worst war in human history or that the recovery didn't happen until after 1955?

 

Sanctions= an act of war. When we sanctioned Japan, our neutrality went out the window(they arguably would've went out earlier with Lend-Lease but the Germans were like "Yeah, we learned from the Mexico thing. You can continue to arm the Brits, we'll just pretend it's nothing.")

No, I don't think we should've allowed half of our fleet to be blown up and ran away from Hawaii with our tails between our legs. I'm saying, as "unpatriotic" as this is going to sound: We should have allowed Imperial Japan to swallow China whole and basically stop her there. Although I doubt Imperial Japan had its sights further than the nearby Asiatic areas. Japan did not have the expansive capabilities of say Britain or Germany.

(Or old day Rome.)

 

What does Putin whisper to Trump?
"Make NATO stronger."
This doesn't make sense.

Trump is unpredictable, maybe dangerous. This isn't good for American, NATO or Russia and China

 

it's a methaphor, forgive me I don't usually forget the language barrier

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The oil embargo on Japan was an act of war? Uh, no, it was a response to the Japanese war machine running amok in the Pacific, which you just said we should protect as its a part of our national interest, and in the Eastern Asiatic. Ya know, also the heinous war crimes.

That was the entire point of the embargo, bud. They even drew up peace plans with the Chinese after we embargoed them, before Tojo tore them up.

Look, I appreciate your intellectual consistency, but this kind of non-interventionism is what led to these powers (Germany, Italy, and Japan) flexing their biceps all across the world. If you think that Japan would have stopped their military interventionism after they essentially locked down their regional influence and economic independence, you're incredibly naive.

Also notice that you ignored your wrong assertions about our economic boon during WWII.

 

So the Trump "connection" is the campaign donation? Shouldn't "the money" have flowed in the OTHER direction? This ones a keeper, run with it.

 

I know methaphore
I did not think Putin sneaks into Trump's bedroom and whispers. How could he? Trump is never home.

 

I too know everything president Trump thinks because I follow him on Tweeter. Trump is not a man who I believe is capable of keeping a secret to himself.
However America's spies need not worry that Trump will leak important information because Trump leaks so much no one knows what is fact and what is fiction.

 

https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543

I will concede that there was a military boon during the War Years. But as far as concrete gains(such as we know them in terms of civil rights, and infrastructure), all of that occurred after the war.

I do think Japan would have stopped as soon as it was at the helm of Asia. As I said, other expansive Empires had the ability to expand through the lands. The Japanese Empire was largely by sea. The existence of America would have been a check, just as the USSR Check. Without any of the drawbacks however. Especially given shared interests by the two strongest powers in the Pacific.

Or another way to say it is: Our modern day relationship with Japan. I'm essentially saying we should have NEVER weakened Japan, which gave rise to China and North Korea. We "won" WW2, but not without the unsolved problems that led to greater problems down the line.

I do think the war crimes were atrocious, but is it any different from our support of ME dictators? Well, it would have been different in that the Imperial State did not view us as an enemy until we embargo'd them. I know it's a hard concept to understand in the view of our "defense" of INTL law, but consider: The American State aligned with the Imperial State. We would have essentially shared, quelled and made the Pacific peaceful. Again, in much the same way we see today. But unlike now where China and NK could compete, in that fictional world: Both would be either utterly diminished or a part of the Japanese Sphere of Influence.


I'm a Fascist-Technocrat(my own made terminology). And through my study of history(which while generally accurate, I have/am prone to errors, as seen here.) I believe the world would have been better off with a few large powers collaborating and allowing for space for the developed world. Instead of the world we have today, where you have powers competing with each other and the smaller powers becoming essentially tools for modern day warfare.

In that sense, I do want China to become Westernized. I also want Russia to join the Western Bloc. That's much easier(less painful) and less consequential than siding with the Eastern Europeans.

When the Eastern Europeans forced our hands with this Russian Dispute, it became geopolitically necessity to find a solution that evaded the war.

 

Let me save you guys some trouble, moonbat crazy conspiracy about Russian cyber army releasing DNC emails as the center of a continually growing 1000 person web of espionage that while ranging from all walks of life are insanely disciplined so as not to give up a shred of actual proof.

Also, this whole time we've been hearing about supposed constant conversations and meetings between Trump's team and the Russians, but we need to bring another cloak and dagger group, blackwater, into it to create a back channel to communicate. In that sentence you say blackwater all spooky like to really incite the paranoia.