Do animals have souls?

Right.

It is timed right up to today.
The "Universal Church" has evolved and developed into the present state which now opens the twelve doors into the New Jerusalem which is here in America.

 

Yes, you are correct.
The World Almanac lists another set which it claims to be the twelve Major denominational christian Churches, slightly different than those in the book.

The reason for this is that these churches will be judged at the White Throne according to the test question of charity as defined and delineated in Matthew 25:31 to the end of that chapter.

The books will be opened and the Charity of these organizations compared to their assets and will separate the sheep from the goats:

 

Ummmm...I'll stick with Jesus' Church.

You're sounding "Latter Day Saint" ish. Is that where you stand?

 

Obvious lie.

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This is effed up and definitely aint topic related.

 

No, I am not denominational at all.
The Latter Day Saints, surprisingly, do say that the center of America will be the place where the New Jerusalem will come down.

They do not realize that the cube shaped 1500 mileX1500mileX1500mile New Jerusalem did come down for just that 1000 year reign, in 380AD when universal Christianity was proclaimed over all the known world:





But they do say what is true, that it will come down again right where the predicted.
Strange, since Smith was full of it.

But the guy who wrote the Book of Mormon that Smith pretended to come out of his hat did have some stuff correct.

Oh, well, each of the 12 mainstream major denominational Christian churches have something to contribute that is right.

 

Never happened.

 

. wwwwhaaaa??? A "cube?" Is the New Jerusalem a Borg mothership?


Yikes....you're weird.

 

They also have a Elijah cup thing.... You are getting and passing on screwy info.

 

. Hmmmmmmm.....the source for your pick is a personal blogspot created by a guy named dave. Curiouser and curiouser....

Self referential? Lacks veracity.
http://svcs.tripod.lycos.com/svcs/d...rl=http://kofh2u.tripod.com/index.html&page=1

 

You didn't KNOW that the New Jerusalem is a cube?????


16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

 

Funny you should take apocalyptic literature literally, but the Gospel and Jesus' words figuratively. Figures. The verse is denoting perfection, not a cube.



BTW: your pictures are creepy.

 

You aren't in any position to call people "creepy" if you interpret the bible in the way that you do.

Any form of spirituality that privileges eternal (*)(*)(*)(*)ation, arbitrary concepts of "perfection" and an apocalypse is inherently creepy.

Just like you.

 

Thanks for saying it like it is,...

But these people who are so eager and so insistent on explaining scripture to others are defensive when rational explanations replace the supposed power they would like to think comes with having sold a metaphysical insight.
Its like the old saying, "If you believe that one, I'll tell you another."

They can proceed with even more surrealism if they find someone who buys in initially.
I prefer to insist that each element of interpretation conform to the academic, scientific, and historic- facts that make what is written at least plausible.

The cube shape of the New Jerusalem during the 1000 year of mandatory Christianity over all Rome was symbolized because the Christians did not individually observe the ritual of Tabernacles as Zechariah had required of these converts to the real judaism.
They were actually living booths in the symbolic sense that the New Jerusalem was a world size booth:


Zech. 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles, (i.e.; build cube shaped little booths to live inside for a week).

 

'kay, kiddo.

BTW: I said his pictures are creepy. More evidence....reading comprehension...

 

Christians probably will dismiss ideas that they, themselves, have overlooked now for 2000 years.
It is threatening to their present posture of authority concerning the Bible, where they have proposed their own ideas, interpretations, and meaning for virtually every verse.

But it is lame to try "weird" as the easy dismissal to the idea that the New Jerusalem refers to the geography of the whole Roman Empire in this reference to a cube of enormous size, 12500milesx1500 milesx1500 miles.

Rev 21:16 states the exact diamensions, which seems weird unless it is related to the Christianity that did in fact spread 1500 miles in every direction over the empire of those exact sizes.
For 1000 years, Christianity was mandatory inside that cube shape.

This New Jerusalem is said to come down from Heaven which is basically what happened when Constantine saw Jesus on the Cross in the clouds and made Christianity legal for the first time in the Empire:


Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones (of Universal Christian authority) and they, (the 144,000 monks of Catholic monasticism: [Rev14:4]), sat upon them, (Christianity mandated as the ONLY legal religion in the Empire, in 380AD), and (theocratic) judgment was given unto them (in the days of Catholic Monasticism): and I saw the souls, (the spirit-like psyches or thinking) of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the (one) word of God, (Truth), and which had not worshipped (by participation in the paganistic practices and sexual excesses fueling) the beast (that was Roman Culture, including the economic system which had been based upon selfish self-interest), neither his image (on his coinage), neither had received his mark (of ledgered accounts recorded) upon their foreheads, or in (wages in) their hands (those monks living in moneyless monastic environments);

and they, (the saints/apostles), lived (as angels in the minds of the Christians who have followed since the appearance of the Gospels in 54AD, i.e., those beheaded saints, in the memories of the congregations who worshipped in churches built upon the bones of their remains)...
.... and (they) reigned (in Monasticism) with Christ a thousand years, (from 54 AD upon the appearance of the Holy Comforter, until 1054 AD with the first Schism of Greek Orthodoxy).

 

How about the cube shaped Most Holy Place in the Temple, where the High Priest spoke annually with God?
Is that cube creepy?





Did you Christians know that Jews don cubes which are strapped to their foreheads when they pray to God?
Is that part of the Judeo-christian religion, or creepy???

 

It's the really bad graphics that make them look like really bad mimeograph machine copies--that's the creepy thing.

 

Probably...

But your own avatar is hardly better is it?

The idea is to get the Right Hemisphere involved in these discussions because many readers understand a picture better than using a thousand words. I could lose a lot of people by introducing numbers and measurements and the detail of the cube shaped New Jerusalem that was the giant Sukkah over all the Christian World for 1000 years:


If you measure from the very tip of Pelleponees in Greece to the top of Scotland, it is the same distance as from Lisbon in the west to Moscow the guardian of the east gate. This is so on the very common "Lambert's Azimuthal equal area projection map of Eurasia."
On this same map you can also measure the entrance of Christianity into Europe.
The measured distances from Jerusalem to Constantinope to Rome to Madrid or Paris are all the same.
Paul preached Christianity first in Jerusalem, then Greece, then Rome and then he planned on going to Spain. Rm.15;24

These are just a few of the amazing miraculous measurements on this map. The reason that we must use this map which is only of the entire continent of Eurasia is because this is called "the earth" in the Bible. It is the "round, flat earth surrounded by water spoken of from ancient times.

 

Greed ? Arrogance >

 

I think there is evidence of those drives and urges in animals, too.
That is why we call some of them pigs or peacocks.

But what we must reflect upon is that the lower animals are earlier branches on the tree of Life from which we brached off 7 million years ago as humans.

We began a growth and development priocess that enlarged our Conscious State for longer durations.

Being able to think Consciously permitted the opportunity for us to develop facilities like the Intuition and Super ego that allowed us to better model the external world and image Reality in our mind in the vision of Truth that corresponded to it.
Both Intuition and Superego structured the logical order to arranging facts in hierarchies which became mathematically related.

Mathematics evolved in us, not animals, both because our thinking had become accurate and because the math helped in that accuracy.The end game was that only man can image this almighty god we call Reality, seeing it in the form of Truth we collect and model inside our mind.



God is all there is, ie; Reality itself... the whole external existence beyond our mind is the almighty God to which all life must bow:



...Truth inside our head, is the Holy Spirit, the image of God, almighty Reality, and is present inside our mind when our thinking correctly images the TRUTH, or the picture of Reality inside our mind.

 

My avatar is my patron saint--Saint Felicity. She's awesome. And, it is too way better than your pixilated line drawings.

See??? Tell me that's not totally creepy. lol.


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One near death experience in six involves a meeting with a deceased pet.

Three year old Colton Burpo saw lots of animals in heaven during his NDE.

http://www.near-death.com/animals.html

 

Yes, you are so aware...moreso than many others (according to you).

Back on topic, please define "soul".

 

Martin Luther said yes.

If my pets aren't going to meet me in heaven, I'm not going

Animals show God's perfection as moral beings. How could they not be Heaven?

 

Soul = Psyke' in the Greek Bible and the word means "mind."