The contrarians: They didn’t vote for Trump, but they would now

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The contrarians: They didn’t vote for Trump, but they would now

    I have seen threads about why people voted for Trump or if they are now embarrassed for voting for Trump but in fact almost no one has changed their opinion except for a few.



    MORE: https://www.yahoo.com/news/contrarians-didnt-vote-trump-now-090051867.html
     
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    I voted 3rd party but if I could take it back, I'd vote Trump.
     
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    we will see in 2018, my guess is republican lose biggly

    and in 2020 Trump will be known as a one term President
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No offense bro, but you also guessed Trump had no chance against Hillary
     
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    Why would you say that? Do you think the American people are that stupid? We can see that the lying MSM has done everything it can think of to discredit Trump since the inauguration. They have been RELENTLESS in their negative coverage 24/7. I know Libs believe everything that MSM despite the fact that they were repeatedly lied to during the campaign, but the rest of us see them for what they are.
    We also see the Democrat senators led by Chuck the schmuck Schumer being the party of NO on everything. They are not interested in doing their jobs, but rather just sticking it to Trump as if that is some kind of badge of honor. And then you want to say that the Republicans are in trouble in 2018? There are 8 Democrats up for re election in red states. They just might have "no"ed themselves out of office. With all that is happening in the world, the Democrats had better come on board and work for the good of this country. Americans are watching...
     
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    Yeah, I voted 3rd party too, which I have done since I voted for Perot. Yet I supported some of the things trump campaigned on. Enforcing the existing immigration laws, which have not been enforced sufficiently. I supported his position on free trade, and his position on foreign policy.

    Yet trump seems to be swinging toward neocon foreign policy, which is no surprise given who he has surrounded himself with. He chose poorly if he was gonna change our foreign policy direction. So, I do not support him now on foreign policy, if this pendulum continues to swing away and contrary to what he ran on. I just hope he does not flip flop on addressing the trade which is not so much trade as a scheme to hollow out our working people economy, creating unsustainable disparity in income.
     
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    I know, and he is digging his own grave. When he was campaigning, his mouth constantly got in the way of his brains with all the
    wonderful things he told his naive base that he was going to do. Currently he is in the process of compromising our democracy and
    standing in the world.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A true TDS statement. Compromising democracy because Trump won't compromise it like a liberal would.
     
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    What do you mean? What does TDS mean? If it has anything to do with me being a democrat, guess what? I am not a democrat.
    I am a Republican who cannot believe what this President is doing to our country. If you think that he is going to make America
    great again, you are in for a rude awakening.
     
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    A vote for anyone but Hillary (including people who "sat it out" and didn't vote) was a vote for Trump.

    Facilitating Trump's election was the practical effect of the vote of anyone who voted for someone other than Hillary.

    In other words, if you "sat it out" or voted 3rd Party, you voted for Trump.
     
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    What's funny is donald didn't think he had a chance either but because of Comey and Vladimir here he is, making a complete fool of himself and all of America.
     
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    Make Conspiracies Great Again!
    #HillaryByaLandslide
     
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    So, specifically what is he 'doing' to our country?
     
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    Glass half full I like that. According to a Washington Post poll released this week if the election were held today Trump would beat Hillary 43-40% and take the popular vote. Washington Post !!! So you believe in 2020 some unknown Democrat will beat Trump? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ary-clinton-voters-do/?utm_term=.6e62a560b103
     
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    Well, his impotency is hardly a badge of honor
     
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    Tell me how many servers did Comey use illegally? Tell me how did Comey/Vlad screw over Bernie?
     
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    I voted third party. I wouldn't change it today either. As for as I was concerned, it was a lose, lose election between Trump and Clinton regardless of who won. Nothing I have seen so far would cause me to change that opinion. A lot of voters did vote for the candidate they thought was the least horrible or would hurt the country the least. Not for a candidate that would lead America forward or be good for it. That hasn't changed either. I just couldn't vote for any candidate that I thought bad for America, even if one of the two the the lesser bad. Bad is still bad.
     
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    Impotency? Explain.
     
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    He isn't doing anything to America because he is incapable of doing anything. Its not through lack of trying...
     
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    You do understand that it matters who the DNC puts up against him as competition. Or have you still not learned that lesson?
     
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    3rd party as well. Started out as a Rand Paul supporter, gave up on that great idea by the time Florida hit the primaries he was toast. Voted for Rubio in FL to try and stop trump, that didn't work. Was a reluctant Hillary supporter once I thought trump was going to win the nomination but I became less comfortable with Her the same day she picked Kaine as a running mate, if she picks Bernie and I'd have gladly given her my chad, and I think she would have won easily. The day I knew I was voting 3rd party was about halfway through the Kaine/Pence debate, I knew then that Kaine was a terrible choice, he got crushed IMO.

    Never ever even considered voting for Trump, although my wife was behind him from get go and gave me a friendly mouthful whenever the opportunity presented itself. My primary never trump motivation was that I wasn't confident that he'd turn the corner and stop the tweets and learn to act presidential I was right, at least for now.

    If I had to do it all over again, in the exact same situation? wow... tough call.

    I'd like to think i'd vote 3rd party again but if voting day was today.... i'd vote Trump just because the left and the attacks have really gotten under my skin, as my anger and frustration with the left simmers down (not looking good) i'd probably switch back to 3rd party again. I'm more likely to vote GOP for every name on the ballot in 18' as it stands because the left has embarrassed themselves with the constant attacks.

    ps... I was 100% sure that Hillary was going to win comfortably, I really thought my protest vote was just that, just a protest against both candidates.

    end rant.
     
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    The media is still up to the same tactics and I have to assume at some point the left will get tired of hearing one thing and finding out they keep getting fooled but so far, seems they keep drinking the Kool aid without question.
     
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    There were 732,635 write-ins (0.56% of the popular vote) during the last general election, in total. Write-ins aren't even reviewed unless no one receives the 270 electoral votes required to win. However, only 12 States even allowed write-ins (Alabama, California, Iowa, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Wyoming). Not included in this list is my State (Virginia) where I did write-in Bernie Sanders despite the fact that they wouldn't accept that write-in. In most of the above States (like California) the write-ins were never counted. California still had 4 million unprocessed votes out when the election was called. In Iowa write-ins were up by 200% from those cast in 2012, but still only 1.1% of the vote and write-ins need to be at least 5% of the vote to be looked at. But in New Hampshire Bernie received 4,493 write-in in a State where Hillary only beat Trump by 2,573 votes. And we could go on down the list, but at the end of the day most people aren't comfortable with the write-in option because although it exist most voters know that it's not counted. So they opt for the next more palatable option (as if their playing the lottery). It was because of ballot access suppression that we cannot have an accurate feel for who voters really support. We can only find out who between the Democrats and the Republicans voters don't support. I'm just glad that I voted to support the candidate that I believed in (regardless of the odds), but I'm happier that we ended up with Trump instead of Hillary. So when I hear people say "if you didn't vote for Hillary then you voted for Trump." I say "Thank God!"
     
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    I would probably have just stayed home and not voted, if I had to do it over. Personally, I could have never voted for Hillary, even if Sanders had been chosen, for she would have put him in a little room somewhere and ignored him. LOL. But I do agree she would have stood a better chance if she had chosen him. She exhibited the horrible judgment she has by not choosing him.

    I will of course keep my eye on trump, and if he doesn't change his position on free trade, and moves back to how he felt about foreign policy before this shift to the neocons, I would vote for him next time around. But it depends on what happens within the democratic party and who they run against trump. I cannot see them changing back into the party they once were, bar some miracle. They like the big campaign financing and like being in bed with a small group of elites who have through influence on both parties devastated this nation, weakened her, and no longer represent the average americans who still vote for them. Trump, at least the man who campaigned was not a GOPher, as Sanders was not a democrat, although he looked more like the old democratic party. I supported sanders, but when it became a race between trump and Hillary, I went against everyone and called this election for trump, right here on this forum. For how could it not be obvious there were enough working people who wanted change, and they would take down a status quo candidate? Yet the belief from the democrats and MSM was that Hillary could win without the votes of white working americans. I have not seen the stats, but I think the demand for change brought white working folks out to vote for trump and then lots of people who hated Hillary, and voted for sanders just stayed home. So, white working people can still affect elections, if they decide to turn out. And the economic suffering of these people is why they voted for trump, instead of the nefarious lie of racism coming from these faux liberal democrats.

    I like Rand Paul though, and if I am still around when he runs again, yeah, I would vote for him. He is one of only a scant few in DC who isn't bat **** crazy. He has intelligent beliefs on foreign policy and the treasonous National Security State.
     
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