Russia backs Chechnya government's denials over killing and torture of gay men

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by litwin, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Firts of all - ha, ha, HA! Who brings it in now, mister 'they can all die or move out - but this land belongs to president Poroshenko'. Second - our country, our problems, WE solving, want participate - move in and get a citizenship.
     
  2. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    6,856
    Likes Received:
    881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course, it is not a lifestyle choice: it happens on the genetic level so it is a choice of Nature to control people population on the Earth.
     
  3. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    6,856
    Likes Received:
    881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It is naive to beleive that ability to vote in Russia will help to solve problems with corruption, violation of the rights, etc. As they say it is important not how to vote, but how to calculate the votes. And it appears they calculate the voices as they want themselves.
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2017
    litwin likes this.
  4. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    you wrote to me cos you like me , right? "a lifestyle choice:" was a far - right UK crew suggestion
     
  5. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is how democracy works, and this is how our country pretty much works, as long as people act responsibly about their decidions and choises. Not with "whatever I do state will get their way anyway" motto.
     
  6. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    6,856
    Likes Received:
    881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you think we have in Russia democracy? I am pretty sure if the people vote not as required by those who are sitting in Kremlin, their voices can be slightly (or severely) corrected.
     
  7. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    6,856
    Likes Received:
    881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course I like you :) To be a gay- it is kind to have a nationality :-D So this is definetely not a lifestyle as this is out of control of a person.
     
  8. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    its strange for me to read such conversation on an American platform in 2017,
     
  9. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And I am fairly sure, that your approach is exactly such a correction. We are to vote, we are to take responsibility for who'll we elect, and we are to start correcting our government, insted of the opposite.
     
  10. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    6,856
    Likes Received:
    881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why?
     
  11. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    6,856
    Likes Received:
    881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You know, strangely, whenever I voted my voice was always minor, so I have a feeling I can personally change nothing. Anyway, time to do some more staff. Have a nice evening!
     
  12. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Times change, plus it will not do any good, if you will just abstain from voting and let others decide what is good for you.
     
  13. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "We are to vote" sure ". as your friend Koba said: 'It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes'?"

    Putin Clings to Victory as Russia's Voter Turnout Exceeds 146%
    gawker.com/5864945/putin-clings-to-victory-as-russias-voter-turnout-exceeds-146
    Dec 4, 2011 - ... that ad for Vladimir Putin's United Russia that turned a voting booth into ... Even Chechnya proved a disappointment: Where in past elections ...
    Chechens back Putin's party, 120% of them: politician | News ...
    www.expatica.com/.../Chechens-back-Putins-party-120-of-them-politician_216621.ht...
    Oct 27, 2010 - A top Chechen lawmaker promised Wednesday that authorities could drum up 120 percent of the vote for Russian Prime Minister's United ...
    In Russia the Number of Votes in the Election May Exceed 120%

    Dec 5, 2011 - In Russia the Number of Votes in the Election May Exceed 120% ... According to this video, in the Sverdlovsk region of Russia voted 115.35% of the electorate, and in the ... Chechen Mujahideen Attack Russian Jeeps ...
     
  14. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    we live in 21c not in 19c. people who hunt down the minorities like (Nazis/Stalinists did ) must be hunted themselves by the Hague...
     
  15. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As your BFF Goebells likely told you during the morning tea on streets of Gomorra - "Mocking others is fine - as long as they are russians."

    if you do not like democracy - you can go to the Vatikan, or Pakistan, or whatever other theocracy we have on the globe, and live there instead. As I said already before - we, russians, can pretty much deal with our elections without your not-even-asked opinion.
     
  16. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "Mocking" ? i am telling the truth here about last days of Mongolian project ulus of juchi. you said that that gay- hunt in Muscovy has limited only territory of muslim Chechen republic. the pictures are from Moscow .

    ___
    sign says : ""no access for pederasts""

    "
    Chronicle of Flashmob "stopgay"
    13th April, 2017 your era www.true-russian-news.com/confession-of-faith.html

    Today police came to our two shops in Moscow, and demanded to remove the sign "no access for gays ("no access for pederasts") " They were told that we are law-abiding citizens and will immediately remove it as soon as we receive a written order. The police left to think.

    German Sterling"
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2017
  17. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ha, ha, ha. Got no attention in original thread and decided to throw it there? Well, no problem:
     
  18. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually, so it won't loose any worth, I can repost the whole discussion there:
    And yes, Tchaikovsky was one of these people. And nope, it's not mentioned in school textbooks, but it sure was spoken about in salons and newspapers back then, and one of reasons why in Russia word serves as one of synonims for homosexuals.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty#Reaction_and_retrenchment
     
  19. Ninel

    Ninel New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2017
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Gender:
    Male
    How do you know that a great composer was a gay? Even if it is so, who cares? He wrote a wonderful music.
     
  20. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  21. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It was written on Wiki, and kinda was commong knowledge among elites in XIX century. And, well, I hardly care, it's his personal life, AND he is a long while dead, so kinda pointless discussing it. And musinc indeed is wonderful.
     
  22. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And man who, upon seeing a demonstration marching and calling him a 'Shame of Saint Petersburg' comes so close he can get punched is indeed a shame for the intellectual capital of the country. What did he expected, a hug?

    Interesting flashmob, though they certainly overdid the 'blood' part:
    [​IMG]

    It's a pain to wash paint off the face.
     
  23. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "It's a pain to wash paint off the face." a typical "rjusski mir" comment...you know what we in europe think? "those guys are real heroes" but they have 0 chance in bamboo mongol semi - state ulus of juchi
     
  24. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Tsk-tsk-tsk. You are not capable of seeing anything good in russians, are you? I wonder what kind of brainwashing was done to you and by whom. Did it involved any sort of clockwork oranges torture?
     
  25. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "seeing anything good in ..." I SEE a lot of good in protesting Musvcovite gays against Putler/Kadyrov gay - hunt (death squads , death camps, etc. ) and the mongol form of government in general . whats about you?
     

Share This Page