May 1st so called immigrants marching against Trump!

Are you SURE?
How about FREE K-12 public education?

http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...upreme-court-decision-texas-case-said-public/

"1982 Supreme Court decision in Texas case said public schools must educate non-citizen children"

 

Sure, good luck with that. Go convince the other 99.99% of the country who has to pay for them. You don't sound like someone who has been employed in the last say, 50 years. Or ever worked for a living.

How about this, I come to your house, move in, and you feed me, and pay for all of my expenses. Does that work for you?

 

Like I said, these past rulings will be changed and fixed.

 

And you're under the laughable impression that the pittance they contribute comes ANYWHERE NEAR what they use in services?

 

I didn't say I wanted to...

Are you saying I should agree with everyone else?

Not what I'm talking about. Not even close. When did I say that the government should pay for every immigrant's expenses.

And what reason do I have to let you in?

 

You said they should get lots of free things, like healthcare, housing, etc.

You want to give lots of free things to illegals, using other people's money.

Post #45.

Who would ever want to give you authority to do anything? You can't even take responsibility for your posts on the same page.

 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." (an excerpt from the Declaration of Independence)


"More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...yes-illegal-aliens-have-constitutional-rights

"In Yick Wo v. Hopkins, a case involving the rights of Chinese immigrants, the Court ruled that the 14th Amendment's statement, "Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws," applied to all persons "without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality," and to "an alien, who has entered the country, and has become subject in all respects to its jurisdiction, and a part of its population, although alleged to be illegally here." (Kaoru Yamataya v. Fisher, 189 U.S. 86 (1903) )

https://www.thoughtco.com/do-illegal-immigrants-have-constitutional-rights-3321849

America was founded on the belief that they were the New Jerusalem of the Bible. Our culture has been fashioned around that belief. From the time of the Mayflower Compact to times like Rev. F.E. Pitts sermon "The United States of America Foretold in the Holy Scriptures" (delivered in Congress 23 Feb. 1857) and going on through the time of Ronald Reagan, our position on the world scene is result of our culture and how America has saw itself. Reagan (a president I didn't really like, BTW) even acknowledged our culture:

"I have quoted John Winthrop's words more than once on the campaign trail this year—for I believe that Americans in 1980 are every bit as committed to that vision of a shining "city on a hill," as were those long ago settlers ...

These visitors to that city on the Potomac do not come as white or black, red or yellow; they are not Jews or Christians; conservatives or liberals; or Democrats or Republicans. They are Americans awed by what has gone before, proud of what for them is still… a shining city on a hill.." (the eve of his election in 1980)

Ronald Reagan left office with the same sentiment. On January 11, 1989 Reagan said, in his Farewell Speech:

"I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still." (That is quite a contrast to the anti-immigrants that want to limit entry to those who they think will "benefit" the anti-immigrant.)

On January 9, of 1961 John F. Kennedy said:

"We must always consider", he said, "that we shall be as a city upon a hill—the eyes of all people are upon us"

Mitt Romney, despite all his flaws, understood this part of our culture. In 2016 Romney was condemning Trump's campaign in a speech He said of Trump and his campaign:

"His domestic policies would lead to recession; his foreign policies would make America and the world less safe. He has neither the temperament nor the judgment to be president, and his personal qualities would mean that America would cease to be a shining city on a hill."

That shining city on a hill is a reference to Matthew 5 : 14. And I point out to you that this New Jerusalem, according to the Bible was the land where there were NO WALLS (Zechariah 2 : 4)

I would second Romney's criticism of Trump on this point. You cannot change what made America great. You cannot destroy our destiny with an act of stupidity.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/puritans.html

http://www.kimmillerconcernedchristians.com/Unsealings/1425.pdf

http://usa-the-republic.com/sheldon emry/old jerusalem not new jerusalem.html

There is a wide berth of difference between workers in America and people seeking citizenship.

 

1. Those things aren't exactly free
2. I said they should have access to education, health care, and general freedoms (such as those in the Bill of Rights)

Yes, and?

Holy **** you must live on the bare minimum if all of your expenses are healthcare and education.

What I was suggesting was that there should be a merit based immigration program. But immigration in the US is a mess at the moment so such a system would be difficult to enforce.

It's no wonder people come here illegally. They obviously don't want to be here illegally, and I see little reason to keep them undocumented.

 

Legal, "illegal," undocumented, etc., etc. Why do we really have this obsession?

From the time the colonists landed at Plymouth Rock to at least the 1990s, we had a very different concept of America. Freedom, Liberty, unalienable Rights... where is that discussion?

 

Interesting that the Socialist/Communist international holiday is called: Mayday!