The last qualified President Americans elected into office was George H.W. Bush

When you get tired of career politicians who know how to work the system, entrenching themselves is power and wealth

 

Leadership in Business is not the same as being the Leader of a Country. This is silliness.

 

Yes, I know. The German autobahn served as a precursor to our freeway system. Eisenhower was impressed by it.

I live reasonably close to L.A. and I avoid the city like the plaque. I am a small town boy from MN.

 

Hi. Economics major here. Words haven't been created to describe how inaccurate you are.

FDR presided under a recessions.
Truman presided under a recession.
JFK Presided under a recession.
Clinton presided under a stock market bubble, which turned into a recession.
Carter presided under a period of Stagflation.
Obama presided under a period of great stagnation.

Generall speaking, the only period of recovery and prosperity happened during the 1950's and 1980s, neither of them were under Democrat presidents.

 

That is irrelevant.

 

Yes, Bush 1 had the credentials. Bill Clinton and Bush 2 had been governors, like Reagan and Carter.

I think there has been a change in the electorate in the past recent years. Obama was almost unknown outside of Illinois when he started running. Hillary was supposed to be the Democratic candidate (as per the Democratic Party machine), but Obama swept her away with his charisma and promise of "change". In this latest election, Trump - the outsider - swept away his Republican opposition, to the chagrin of the Republican Party establishment, with his promises to "drain the swamp" and to fight for working people. And Bernie came close to overtaking Hillary.

What does this tell us? I think it tells us that the American people know that the D.C. establishment doesn't represent them, and they don't trust them, and they don't like them. In this atmosphere, I almost think that the more credentials you heap onto a candidate, the less people like them, trust them, or believe them. And frankly, I don't blame them.

 

That sounds okay to me.

 

One poster made a very good point. A person who is the CEO of a corporation has better qualifications for the Presidency than the owner of a business empire. While the owner of the business empire answers to no one, the CEO must answer to stockholders and the board of directors. Yet, he is still in a powerful leadership position.

 

Look at the graph, economics major.

Would you care to explain yourself or are we supposed to guess?

 

You're reading the graph incorrectly.

 

Name one. and don't claim President Kennedy as he was vastly overrated. Mediocre at best.

 

Seth, you have a point. You usually do. However, that is a two-edged sword. When you elect a President without any credentials, you get Presidents like the last four.

Clinton's Kosovo war was a disaster. He killed more friendlies than enemies. He sent cruise missiles flying at Iraq to slow down impeachment. He was impeached by the House and that tore our country apart.

Bush, Jr., used lies to Congress and the American people to enable the invasion of Iraq. The Iraq war was an unmitigated disaster, killing nearly 5,000 Americans, wounding 25,000, cost us $6 trillion, destroyed Iraq's economy, governance, and infrastructure, and killed one million Iraqis. We are still fighting the two wars he started.

Obama was basically a do-nothing President who at times encouraged racism. The hatred spawned by his Presidency resulted in the election of Trump.

Trump, arguably, is the worst of the lot. His administration is racked by scandal and controversy unprecedented in American history. He creates controversy almost daily, probably welcomes it because he strives for attention. He is the ultimate alpha male who thoroughly enjoys talking about himself and his triumphs. He rarely shares credit, most notably because there is very little to share. He has completely lost control of the White House, which leaks like a sieve. For this, of course, he blames others, primarily the communication department for its inability to read his mind. At this stage of a Presidency, he has the lowest approval rating in history, and he has the lowest legislative accomplishments in history, in terms of meaningful legislation, zero. Members of his own party in Congress and his own administration are beginning to turn against him.

To sum up, Seth, I don't think the lack of credentials is a good idea. The American voter may think so, but that doesn't make it right. Lack of credentials has created a quarter century of substandard Presidents.

 

Obama was the best President we had in a long time, too bad we did not have a congress to match

 

I can't agree with you about any of the three. You know my opinions on President G.W. Bush. And while I take second place to no one in my loathing of President Clinton I would not call the Kosovo campaign a disaster. Too timidly waged but hardly a disaster. And I do not think his attacks on Iraq had anything to do with impeachment. His second two Secretaries of Defense were Republicans and pretty highly regarded. I don't think they would've gone along without protesting and resigning if they thought the military actions were politically motivated.

I don't see how President Obama "encouraged racism". A few of his public statements during times of racial unrest were not wise but I would not go so far as to say he "encouraged racism"

And though I did not think the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) was a good idea it was a truly major achievement that refutes the idea of him as a "do-nothing" president.

 

I was born and raised on a farm, but that was a long time ago. I live 25 miles south of Atlanta. There used to be a bunch of small towns and farm country between me and Atlanta. Now it is it seems all suburbs, shopping malls, asphalt and concrete.

One of these days we are going to run out of farm land to grow our food. I was stationed in Germany from 1980-83 in Fulda. Guarding the East German Border. Yes the German autobahn is something. Most place on the autobahn there was no speed limit. I wonder if it is still that way.

 

Lol, all 3 of those make him perfectly qualified and experienced to be president.

 

I don't know if I like the idea of an "experienced" politician. Experienced at lying? Experienced at cronyism? Experience at what exactly? If the politician is experienced, that means he or she is a career politician which means he or she is probably corrupt. I remember hearing about an "experienced" politician who made a comment something like, the longer a politician serves, the more corrupt he becomes, that he can start off with good intentions but it is totally normal for corruption to happen within our government. Who knows how to fix this problem? Term limits for all politicians? Make it a voluntary job? I don't know, and there are no easy answers to our problems within our government.

 

How?

 

Much the same problem existed for President Obama. And that's because we collectively as a nation fail to collaborate on a vote for the President, as well as Congress. Let me make it stupidly simple for people: If you were going to elect Trump, you should vote for Trump-leaning Republicans, if you were going to elect Hillary, you should vote for Hillary-leaning Democrats!

The inability of Congress to function, is a direct result of the bipolar politicians put in there, by an increasing dumb populace. So while you want to say "The President!" The real stupidity of our voting record is how we care so little for our voting responsibilities to Congress.

80% of us dislike Congress, but few of us ever really want to change it. It's in Congress where a shakeup is needed.

 

In Trump's GOP, a "RINO" is anybody who doesn't kiss Trump's butt. That's the reality of the situation.

 

All those recessions you are referring to occurred under the GOP.

 

unemployment rate under Bush = 7.8%

unemployment rate under Clinton = 4%



Clinton created MILLIONS of job while Bush lost millions as did his incompetent son

 

According president Donald Trump, the "business genius", the economy does better under Democrats than Republicans.





Does this upset you?

 

That is basically how I looked at it too.