Why the Right Wing Rejects Science

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  1. AFM

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    Point to them at will.
     
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    I've defined the beginning of human life. That is a simple fact which is not falsifiable. Regardless of legality abortion terminates a human life.

    I have no interest in playing your word games or engaging in personal insults. Define life to your hearts content. I'm pointing out that abortion terminates that life regardless of how someone defines it.
     
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    I understand that, but then again my mother and Father are honest, always have been! Same with their sisters, brother, Mothers and Fathers, I suppose it's the difference in our lives and families that places that sort of doubt in your mind and not mine. I mean really I understand where you're coming from, sadly I do, if you've grown up not being able to trust the most basic morals like honesty from your Mother and Father I can see how it would instill that sense of distrust universally :(

    I might not be the one to help you hash this sort of thought process out, only real advice I can give you is to sit down with your folk with and a intermediate and find out why you have these trust issues and why you wish this same misery to be the same with other you interact with!

    Good luck Bro.
     
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    What is disgusting would be interfering with a womens' right to choose
     
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    You brought up my mother and then I brought up yours. You have no idea what she was like before you were born. NONE
     
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    The right to choose whether to terminate a human life ??
     
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    Yep. A woman should be able to KILL a human life inside her body that is harming her. Why can't women defend themselves? Would you defend yourself if someone was harming you?
     
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    Who ever decides on an abortion for whatever reason must understand that the act of abortion terminates a human life. Within the legal system that is the choice they make with that knowledge.
     
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    Yep. Same for the next of kin for a brain dead patient. KILL AWAY!
     
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    People like the OP are the true problem with America.

    Hyper partisanship denotes a sense of combativeness before you even get to speak, hence nothing will ever get done and no compromises ever be made.

    We the people have done such a crappy job of understanding that we are in fact all very different individuals.

    Way to go OP, keep calling people names, it does us so much good ;P
     
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    The search for truth is philosophy. Science is one branch of philosophy, and as I explained, it is not without its limitations. We have to accept those limitations, yes? If we don't, then we reject "science".

    Science does not eliminate all other possibilities. There are people who say that they have lived other lives. That's a possiblitiy. There are ideas that have nothing to do with science. Yes? This doesn't mean that science can provide the answer as to why somebody claims to have lived another life, but rather that it's limited to what it is, which is measuring what is here and now. It doesn't eliminate all other possibilities, but rather is a method that can be used to getting at some truths through measurements.

    If you can admit that science has its limitations, then this charge of being a science denier loses more than a lot of its impotency. Furthermore, check your own sources. Are they using models? Those are supposed to predict the result, yet there have been more than a few "scientists" who predicted that New York would be underwater by now, so forget your models. They are a part of science that has been shown to not predict the future.

    You guys who hammer away at the "science denier" nonsense come off as not being scientifically literate because you don't understand the limitations of science.
     
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    Nor do they understand the scientific method. Hypotheses are "proven" by measurements and are "proven" until falsified. That's how it works. If measurements are not possible then any wacky idea can be presented but not "proven."
     
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    Onus is entirely on YOU to PROVE that it is a "political opinion".

    You can't substantiate your BOGUS allegation, period.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    The Wall Street Casino Bosses considers people to be exploitable resources that can be callously discarded when they no longer produce profits because of either sickness or age.
     
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    Ironic!

    :roflol:
     
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    Funny stuff. What do these bosses do - abort them ??
     
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    360,000 human births per day globally - and all these human lives began with conception. That's an impressive amount of measurements.
     
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    Right wingers deny politics and worldviews masquerading as science: Anthropogentic global warming. Ateleological evolution. A few other things.

    Two things:

    1. That's a good thing, not a thing. If science is to remain prestigious, it must be protected from being used as a tool by those with a personal agenda.

    2. These issues represent a tiny minority of the totality of science. Rejecting them no more makes right wingers science than rejecting the biological fact that life begins at conception makes left wingers anti-science, or the biological fact that race and gender are both valid classifications.
     
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    And you reject the majority of the experts for a small band of renegades. Rather than being skeptical you are cynical and irrational and cherry pick your sources.

    The scientific community cites our level of confidence in anthropogenic warming as 85-90%, the last I looked.

    Deniers who haven't a lick of education on the subject, or any science beyond high school, have 100% confidence.

    That is called arrogance through ignorance.

    Correction: We have a millions of internet experts who apparently live at a Holiday Inn. The internet has created a perpetual case of Freshmanitis for the right wing. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
     
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    What is the climate sensitivity to CO2 ??

    Very very few do not acknowledge that human CO2 emissions contribute to CO2.
     
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    That's what really gets me about this. I'm being called a science denier because I don't care about a consensus, yet not one of these dunderheads can explain what a "consensus" has to do with science.

    Not a one of them!

    Scientific morons calling people who actually understand the scientific method "science deniers". They are absolute morons!
     
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    Congratulations! You have managed to disqualify yourself from any further interactions with me on this topic since it patently obvious that you don't have a clue what you are talking about when it comes to science and the scientific method.

    On the positive side you have proven the OP premise to be 100% accurate.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Of course I do :) WTF, I wasn't left on the door step of a orphanage and my family didn't sit around lying to one another about their past ;) My mother had seven children, when she gave birth to my youngest sister she had a procedure commonly used at that time to stop pregnancy from happening, sorry, that's all there is to it :)

    I hope you get that negativity and those family distrust issue in check, clearly they are adversely effecting the way you view others and their relationship with their immediate family's! I understand that it may be hard for you to comprehend that normally parents don't lie about their past to their children, and that open and honest dialect is, as it was in with my family and still is today. Clearly to even think that parents are deceitful with their children is a sign they were broken and unfortunately passed that abnormality on to their offspring :(
     
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    How so. A hypothesis has been presented and shown to be true based on measurements (lots of them). This hypothesis has not (and cannot) be falsified. No one has been able to come close to falsifying the statement that human life begins at conception. That is the scientific method in action.
     
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    Persons truly interested in the truth do not call those who disagree with them "deniers." That is an Alinsky tactic and indicates a lack of initative, curiosity, and integrity.
     

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