Rate Trump 1 to 10

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not. I'm applauding your consistency.
     
  2. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Personally I'd rate him as at "1" because there remains hope that he'll resign or be removed from office but then we'd have Mike Pence as president and Pence isn't someone that should run the country either.

    As president Donald Trump has demonstrated beyond any doubt why conservative editorial boards from the National Review and staunchly Republican newspapers like the Arizona Republic advised Republicans to not support Donald Trump because he was unfit and unqualified to be president. He's actions as President clearly reflect that he's both unfit and unqualified to lead the United States.

    He's constantly reinforcing the diagnosis of a person with malignant narcissism and a paranoid personality disorder that's living in a delusional world of mental illness.

    Narcissism:
    1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
    2. Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love
    3. Believes he is “special” and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
    4. Requires excessive admiration
    5. Has a sense of entitlement
    6. Selfishly takes advantage of others to achieve his own ends
    8. Is often envious of others or believes others to be envious of him


    It's not new for people to recognize that Trump has a narcissistic personality disorder - The following article was published at some point prior to 2013 because, while undated, it references futuristic changes that were to occur in 2013.
    http://bigthink.com/artful-choice/l...ersonality-disorder-according-to-donald-trump

    Paranoid Personality Disorder:
    Concern that other people have hidden motive
    Expectation that they will be exploited (used) by others
    Inability to work together with others
    Social isolation
    Detachment
    Hostility


    Trump's hostility to the media, calling it "fake news" that's out to get him. His debunked claims that Obama was spying on him during his campaign. His personal twitter attacks on so many people that it's hard to even keep track. All of this points to Trump living in a delusional world of paranoia.

    Trump has consistently overstated his accomplishments. He's claimed to be an exceptional corporate executive, for example, but in reality the only reason he's ever been a corporate executive is because he self-appointed himself to the position and then, based upon his actual performance, he's driven his corporations into bankruptcy four times and has had over a dozen business failures including Trump Airlines and Trump University. Uninformed people believe that his wealth is due to his success as a corporate executive when, in fact, had he just invested his inheritance into the S&P 500 he'd be worth twice as much money than what he claims to currently have. Donald Trump would never be appointed to any corporate executive position by any independent board of directors. The reason he was so good as a TV reality star on the Apprentice is because he was such a poor quality executive that he made the show humorous. A qualified corporate executive would have been boring.

    Donald Trump has ZERO positive accomplishments since become President and numerous negative accomplishments.

    Not even one significant piece of legislation related to his campaign promises has crossed his desk.

    He never proposed his promised replacement for Obamacare (because he never had one) and he's already supported draconian cuts to Medicaid that he promised to protect.

    He abandoned his promise to focus immigration enforcement on those that represented a threat. The murders and the rapists that he claimed are coming from Mexico. Instead he's implemented a mass deportation effort by ICE where undocumented immigrants with no criminal record are being deported at three-times the previous rate under the Obama administration. He's claiming improved border security that's based upon changes made under the Obama administration.

    His tax reform proposal has been basically dismissed as Dead on Arrival by Republicans in Congress.

    He still wants to build the border wall but Congress isn't going to fund it and recent studies indicate that the primary source of illegal aliens being in the United States isn't from "Mexicans" (Hispanics) crossing the border from Mexico but instead is from Canadians and Germans taking commercial airlines or ships to the United States, entering the country legally on a visa, and then over-staying their visa.

    He's issued his "Muslim" travel ban twice, both times blocked by the federal courts and federal court of appeals by falsely claiming the people from these countries represent a terrorist threat to the United State - a claim that even his own Department of Homeland Security debunked as being false.

    He's obsessed with international Islamic terrorism that doesn't represent a serious threat to the United States today (we haven't had an international terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11) and isn't even paying attention to the domestic terrorist threat where the greatest threat, according to law enforcement, isn't domestic Islamic terrorism but instead is extreme right-wing ideologies that are the single largest source of terrorism in the United States.

    His attack on the environment is blatant as is his attack on public education.

    He's appointed an Attorney General that's been openly opposed to civil rights.

    He appointed a person without any diplomatic experience to be the top US diplomat as Sect of State.

    Finally, his racist and xenophobic rhetoric along with his religious intolerance continues to retain the full support of the KKK.

    Perhaps I'm being overly generous in rating Trump's performance as president a "1" but I'll give him that because so many of Obama's changes and/or the changes made by prior administrations continue to positively influence the nation resulting is many positive effects. The "1" is more for what Trump hasn't done yet as opposed to anything he has done since becoming president.
     
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  3. Dropship

    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't it be more logical for anti-Trumpists to wait and see how The Don does over the next 3 1/2 years instead of going off half-cocked about him prematurely?
    Remember, Decca and EMI both turned down the Beatles at early auditions, and young Elvis was told by one record producer to "Go back to driving trucks son".
    As for being "unqualified", Trump is a billionnaire businessman, so he'll make you all as rich as him..:)
    Wiki- "Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in May 1968 with a Bachelor of Science degree in economics."
     
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  4. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope Gorsuch is the most liberal of the next two appointees for the Supreme Court.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They could have followed the Constitution. I know that's an old fashioned idea and not very hip.
     
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    I give him a 6. His things of substance like bombing Assad's airfield, greatly improving our mid-East stature, etc are outstanding. I fault him for jumping into the bed of liberals and Rhino establishment people. He will lose to the deep state unless he gets tough conservative appointments made and gets rid of the wolves in sheep clothing already on his staff and then reads the riot act to Ryan and McConnell, then starts bypassing congress and the media and going directly to the people -- Reagan style, not tweety bird style.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I give a 10 in the three things that matter, getting the court right, immigration enforcement, and making liberals whine and cry...
     
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    ... a completely unjustified invalid "interpretation" more correctly described as a lie.
     
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    It amazes me that I, an Aussie know more about this than Americans

    So much surrounding abortion has been confounded that few really know the facts. Roe versus Wade was essentially about PRIVACY in relation to health care. That is NOT something you want overturned.
     
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    You can have all the privacy you need or want without abortion on demand.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IMO trump has. Displayed genius at many things... particularly populist demagoguery
    But even if you agree with what he says
    A simple fact is that, SO FAR, trump has demonstrated near zero aptitude to implement his agenda.

    A second simple fact is that trump himself has been a colossal impediment to accomplishing the agenda he promoted. And for that reason I give him a zero
     
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    Maybe a 3.
    Trumpcare seems a train wreck.
    I do like how he told NATO they need to start paying their fair share.
    But then he does the bump into people chit.
    No need for that.
     
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    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    What the hell does pay their fair shar even mean? How do we know they aren't more efficient with their spending?
     
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    In a vacuum he gets a 5.
    When the left goes after him he gets a 9.

    I didn't vote for the man but he's now my president and the idea that the mainstream left is trying to impeach him over manufactured nonsense issues just ticks me off. If the left keeps this up I'm going to vote for Trump in 4 years and do so in my home state of Georgia. That will be one more vote keeping GA from turning blue.

    It's cool to fight his agenda but to try and impeach him "just because" is totally garbage and the left is going to destroy itself if it keeps up this nonsense.

    Edit... I at first gave him a 3 but then remembered he showed Assad that Syria can't get away with using chemical weapons. And he did it even though the Russians were sitting right there. That show of strength and moral clarity is worth +2.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I give Trump a 4. He's a powerful man who is getting America out of its weak spot. But he's doing some harm to the budget and his tax cut plan isn't well thought out or based on reality.
     
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    Obama is now out of office, so why bring his sorry record up for discussion?
     

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