When The Russian Hoax Is Exposed, Should The Democrats Be Held Accountable?

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  1. Pycckia

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    Of course it does. She shouldn't be fired for what she said. She should be fired because nobody watches her crummy show anymore.
     
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    How many coal fired plants have closed in the past 20 years and how many new ones have been built in the US since 1970?
     
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    Why jump to a conclusion to the positive or negative based upon incomplete evidence if other than bias?
     
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    Are you unable to read? Take another look at my post!
     
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    What evidence do you expect to find that shows nothing happened?

    How do you prove a negative?
     
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    Actually, since Ronald Reagan. His 1981 tax bill was the legislation that enshrined trickle down economics, which remains the core of US income tax policy to this day. That and taxing income from investment at a far lower rate than income earned from work. These two things are what started and accelerated the gradual shift in both wealth and earnings away from the Middle Class.
     
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    Still playing the fool for a discredited talking point, I see.
     
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    Actually, I don't remember $.25 light bulbs. I remember $1.50 light bulbs that had an 800 to 1000 hour life.

    Now I have $8 light bulbs that will last the rest of my life (literally) and burn 1/8 the electricity.

    They don't call that Marxism. They call it progress!
     
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    Those other industrialized nations that the US lags behind are SOCIAL-DEMOCRACIES that you just maligned as the reason for lagging.

    Single Payer systems in those social-democracies cover 100% of their population for LESS than it costs here in the USA to cover just a fraction of the population.

    This kind of illogical drivel where you berate other social-democracies for doing better than the USA while denigrating the same systems they are successfully using makes no sense whatsoever! :eek:
     
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    Obviously you don't have a clue how the Law of the Land actually works, do you?
     
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    Maybe they were talking with Russia wasting time.
     
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    Extremist alt right exposes it's un-American attitude towards We the People.
     
  13. TomFitz

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    You need to get your meds renewed.

    All this drivel about "Marxists" is boring and pointless.
     
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    Its a no-brainer, isn't it?
     
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    How does a lower capital gains tax shift wealth and earnings away from the middle class? Be specific - VERY specific!

    Do you subscribe to the Marxist Democrat view of the rich that they bury their wealth in the backyard as Scrooge McDuck does in Donald Duck comics? If you *do* subscribe to that view then explain how the rich stay rich - be SPECIFIC.

    Trickle down economics is nothing more than the belief that people will spend their money more wisely and more efficiently than the government will. Do you believe, as the Marxist Democrats do, that the elitists in government are better at spending the people's money than the people themselves?
     
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    If you don't remember .25c light bulbs then you aren't very old. I can remember buying a pack of 10 light bulbs for $2.50 at the hardware store when Reagan was President. Most of the price increase since then were the result of Marxist Democrat regulation.

    How many $8 light bulbs can a poor family afford?
     
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    Is that what you think the wealthy do with their money? What a weird thing to say.
     
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    Social Democracy is just a Orwellian definition for Marxism. Collectivism simply doesn't work. Never has and never will!
    The US lags behind no one. Why do you think people want to come to the US instead of Europe? The European welfare states are failing from the huge influx of refugees the EU has forced them to take in. Brexit is just the beginning of the revolts that will be seen in Europe. Why do you think Europe has such a low annual economic growth rate and such a high normal unemployment rate? You didn't even bother to address these truths, you just repeated the same old canards!

    As I tried to tell you, those social democracies use a QALI metric to determine who gets treated and who doesn't. That doesn't happen in the US. You just totally blew off the example I gave you of Obama saying old people should get a pain pill instead of a pacemaker. *THAT* is how the social democracies spend less than we do, they don't treat everyone, especially the elderly.

    You haven't refuted a single point I've tried to make. Not one. You just keep repeating the same canards you've been fed by the Marxist Democrats that are nothing more than talking point lies.
     
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    I obviously have a better understanding than you do. Allegations of non-crimes are useless for anything other than the politics of personal destruction the Marxist Democrats play so well!
     
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    Is that illegal in your opinion?
     
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    I haven't said it was illegal.. just deceitful.
     
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    All you have to offer are the argumentative fallacies of Argument by Dismissal and Poisoning the Well.

    You can't refute a single point I've made so you just dismiss it as drivel - Argument by Dismissal.
    And then you try to attack my message by denigrating me - Poisoning the Well.

    Do you have *ANYTHING* of import to offer in refutation of anything I've posted? Argumentative fallacies do nothing but show you out of your league.
     
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    Learn to read. TomFitz is the one that implied the wealthy bury their wealth in the backyard, not me.
     
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    And Obama wasn't deceitful? Trying to convince the people that a video caused Benghazi? Trying to convince the people that he and his administration didn't violate the 4th Amendment rights of hundreds of Americans with illegal wiretaps?
    How is wasting time "deceitful", BTW?
     
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    Nobody knew for sure.. There were 23 Embassies and consulates experiencing riots or protests that week. All US embassies were on alert.
     
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