y Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

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  1. raytri

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    As would be ignoring the incredible advantage of having been born on the mountaintop, and not having to scale the mountain.

    Being rich is not an automatic indication that you are smart or clever. You have to look at HOW they got rich.
     
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    Charged with? Nothing yet. But he was fired by trump, so the allegations against him were not Fake News were they?
     
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    Oh gee! Are you under the impression that Kushner was a member of President Obama's staff in December 2016! Do I really need to post a facepalm pic here?

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    Yeah. I do.
     
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    Asking a foreign Government to set up a secret line of communication is.
     
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    When we imposed sanctions, after Russia violated the sovereignty of other nations.
    Lol! You people are so desperate to latch onto anything.
     
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    Apologists for the corrupt political class are the last people who should be talking about "treason". The the American bipartisan political establishment has clearly come together to overthrow the elected President of the US. Now that looks a lot like treason in case you haven'y noticed.

    And guess what - the NSA has collected a comprehensive record of the entire effort just waiting for a federal grand jury to command them to deliver it to them. Wouldn't hat be great! :)

    That is probably why the politically connected bipartisan enemies of Trump, unlike you, are carefully avoiding the "T" word. ;-)
     
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    Nonsense, he was a representative of the President Elect.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since when comparing a current event and a past one is considered deflecting? Ah yes... it's inconvenient... :p
     
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    You need to review a bit of history. Anyone who represents a President in communications with a foreign government is engaged in diplomacy - often secret diplomacy.

    T. Roosevelt's daughter helped him win the Nobel Prize with her negotiations on his behalf with the representatives of the Empire of Japan. There have been many other examples. You need to find better sources of information that will not leave important history and facts out to mislead you and wind you up with obvious Fake News.
     
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    so Obama and his team committed treason?


     
  11. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since when comparing a current event and a past one is considered wasting other people's time? Ah yes... it's an inconvenient to remember Democrats's own Judas, right? :p
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing to debate, you're right about that. Ted Kennedy, however, did sold America to russkies; thank you, russkies, for not buying Ted Kennedy's treasonous proposal!

    Trump and his team did nothing of a kind and even if they did, it'd be good, in retrospect, to acknowledge the Democrats had their own Judas. Not that long ago, too.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? Does bringing up the memory of treasonous Ted Kennedy stirs up an inconvenient, guilty thought? Hope so :)
     
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    No it isn't.
     
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    Placing sanctions on Russia is not even close to declaring open hostilities. And if by "latch onto anything" you mean evidence, then yes, I prefer to cling to the facts.
     
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    I'm sure this secret channel was meant to facilitate funneling of a million dollars or two in bribes, to Trump :)
     
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    Read my post again. I said nothing about how Trump got rich. Respond to the rather obvious truth that I pointed out.
     
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    What they discussed is common, nothing here.
     
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    Read some history - please. Inform yourself. Was TR's daughter have an official staff position when she conducted secret negotiations with The Empire of Japan?
    Anyone a President chooses to communicate with the representatives of another nation is engaged in diplomatic communications.

    This is not hard to figure out. Find better sources of information - it will help.
     
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    These classless bottom feeding tactics are not a counter rebuttal.
    Smells more like justice to me.

    What would be great, is if some folks had the good horse sense not to elect a career mafia criminal as their president.

    Have at. I have nothing to hide. Would you rather I double down by saying that what Kushner did probably violated the Espionage Act as well?
     
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    So, are you saying that you would rather him get away with a crime, if they can't prove intent, or would you rather find out the truth? I'm guessing the former works best for you?
     
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    Ted Kennedy was apparently acting on his own and against the US.
    Teddy was always the runt of the litter.
     
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    Ah, my bad. Misread it.
     
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    Yet another empty post based entirely on your heavy reliance on known Fake News sources.

    “The latest official to throw cold water on the MSNBC-led circus is President Obama’s former acting CIA chief Michael Morell. What makes him particularly notable in this context is that Morell was one of Clinton’s most vocal CIA surrogates. In August, he not only endorsed Clinton in the pages of the New York Times but also became the first high official to explicitly accuse Trump of disloyalty, claiming, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.”

    But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.” “On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire at all,” he said, adding, “There’s no little campfire, there’s no little candle, there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.” THE INTERCEPT, Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion, Glenn Greenwald, March 16 2017.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/03/16...-to-expect-evidence-of-trumprussia-collusion/

    Yes! I always like it when you guys "double down". Go for it! ;-)
     

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